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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old Jun 21st, 17, 07:14 AM Thread Starter
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Vintage Air compressor and alternator mount question

I posted it in the vendor section, but will ask it here in a different way. I'd like to order a Vintage Air setup for my '69 BBC Camaro, and I don't want (can't afford) a serpentine setup, but I want the compressor on the passenger side and the alternator on the driver's side like a '68 BBC.

So I'm looking for decent looking aluminum or chrome mounting brackets that will locate the alternator and compressor in the normal (?) position, not high, not low, and I don't like the huge plate look of the VA brackets.

I have a long water pump, and also want to know if I'm going to have to swap in a short pump? Thanks in advance for the advice.-Mike

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post #2 of 7 (permalink) Old Jun 21st, 17, 01:48 PM
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Re: Vintage Air compressor and alternator mount question

Tell the VA guys you have a 68 BB and get their brackets. If you don't like their brackets, I can't imagine how expensive shiny cool looking brackets will be.

If you are going to emulate the 68 BB setup, you'll need all the brackets to swap sides and location for the alternator and PS pump, which will require a short water pump, fan and radiator shroud.
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Re: Vintage Air compressor and alternator mount question

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Tell the VA guys you have a 68 BB and get their brackets. If you don't like their brackets, I can't imagine how expensive shiny cool looking brackets will be.

If you are going to emulate the 68 BB setup, you'll need all the brackets to swap sides and location for the alternator and PS pump, which will require a short water pump, fan and radiator shroud.
Wow! May have to rethink this LOL. Whats the difference in the actual fans? Diameter, pitch? And is the '68 BBC fan shroud deeper or something else is different?

Just wondering out loud here... my main objection to the "standard" 1969 setup is the cluttered look of all the hoses in front of the block. Has anyone seen an alternate hose layout that isn't so fugly? 🤔

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Re: Vintage Air compressor and alternator mount question

I've installed the 69 style VA set up on a BBC 69. The "cluttered look" can be addressed by running the lines from the compressor carefully with fittings and hoses for a neat install.

You can run custom hard lines that will greatly improve the look. More work then hose but way easier then swapping everything to opposite sides.

Other options are reduced barrier hoses and fittings that are more flexible and have smaller outside diameters or braided lines and stainless fittings from Gottashow.
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I've installed the 69 style VA set up on a BBC 69. The "cluttered look" can be addressed by running the lines from the compressor carefully with fittings and hoses for a neat install.

You can run custom hard lines that will greatly improve the look. More work then hose but way easier then swapping everything to opposite sides.

Other options are reduced barrier hoses and fittings that are more flexible and have smaller outside diameters or braided lines and stainless fittings from Gottashow.
Hey John... That all sounds promising. Do you have any links to pix or articles on "cleaner installs" and hard lines? I'll also check out Gottashow.

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Re: Vintage Air compressor and alternator mount question

Google AC custom hard lines. Take a look on Protouring.

Gottashow has braided. Relatively expensive but looks good.

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Re: Vintage Air compressor and alternator mount question

After all is said and done, think I'm going to stick with the compressor on the DS. Vintage Air has thinner hoses with an EZ Clip system where you can crimp the hoses with a pair of specialty pliers similar to PEX pliers... might even be the same.

My car has a single groove water pump pulley and a double groove crank pulley in front of the balancer. The VA PDF instructions show a triple groove crank and a double groove water pump pulley. Are these pretty much generic BBC pulleys as I see them on eBay?

BTW, I do have a long water pump, and also just wondering if the VA moves the alternator from its current position to further out?

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