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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old Jan 20th, 19, 11:01 AM Thread Starter
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Which Heat and A/C Unit?

I am getting ready to purchase my heat and air and really could use some advice. I think it makes a lot of sense to install one of these units while there is nothing in the way as my interior is completely gutted including steering column and pedals. I have looked and read extensively about both Vintage Air and Classic Auto Air. Seems to me they are essentially the same with the only differentiators being the Classic Auto kit comes with electronic controls (which I really like) and the Vintage Air has lots of additional options for plumbing and controls available.

It might all come down to customer service and technical support rather than hardware. It does seem as though Vintage Air might have a leg up in the industry due to length of time in residence but not really sure. Any feedback, advice or comments would be appreciated.

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Vintage air ven 4 is my choice hands down. Clasic and retro I will not use in my shop. I put a few vintage kits in in my shop every year. I personally own two vehicles with vintage myself.

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Re: Which Heat and A/C Unit?

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Vintage air ven 4 is my choice hands down. Clasic and retro I will not use in my shop. I put a few vintage kits in in my shop every year. I personally own two vehicles with vintage myself.
Thanks Keith. Any particular reason for the choice/preference?

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Ease of installation, customer service, the integrated heat/cool coils, the no cable instal using the factory controls, and lastly the fact that I can sit in 100 degree temp in traffic in my 69 for 45 minuits and not one ounce of sweat.

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Re: Which Heat and A/C Unit?

Vintage Air has electronic controls.

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Vintage Air has electronic controls.

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yes Don is correct vintage has electronic servo controls that you have the option to hook them to your factory heat/ac controls, not classic or retro air.

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Re: Which Heat and A/C Unit?

Well, I think that settles it. Sounds like a good recommendation and I really appreciate the feedback.

Thanks guys!

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Re: Which Heat and A/C Unit?

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Ease of installation, customer service, the integrated heat/cool coils, the no cable instal using the factory controls, and lastly the fact that I can sit in 100 degree temp in traffic in my 69 for 45 minuits and not one ounce of sweat.
Hi Timmy
I wanted to give my "Take" on this A/C Unit Un-Debate, I Purchased and Installed Only 1 Unit and probably, never do another.
I never Installed a Vintage Unit, but thought I would give some Info and Pic's. I believe you were Looking for Advice with Both ?


I bought the Classic Auto Air System, And Got All that Keith Mentions Above.
I did a Custom Install and the "Customer Support" from Classic was Over the Top, They even Called me to ask how things were Going after I contacted them.


This was about 5 years ago too, System Options and Parts may have Changed along over the Years.


One thing to Keep in Mind is these Units Do Not take Air From the Outside, Your "Flo Thru Ventilation" will still Operate.


And Take Care while Laying out your "Evaporator Drain Hole" you will be Putting thru the Floor pan. In Keeping your Unit Should be Perpendicular to the Chassis, A Slight Tilt Towards the Drain Hole will be Helpful.


Here is some Info and Pic's, Good Luck with the Unit you Buy !
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https://www.camaros.net/forums/28-he...-core-mod.html
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post #9 of 12 (permalink) Old Mar 25th, 19, 10:07 AM
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Re: Which Heat and A/C Unit?

I am currently in the process of installing the Custom Colder III unit from Classic. I think I was overly ambitious in getting the custom unit under the dash. It's massive. It'll get done, but I would have been better off with the direct fit. That was my mistake though. The support has been great and they did warn me that it was real tight. Love the electronic controls.

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Re: Which Heat and A/C Unit?

I looked at A/C systems about a year ago and had decided to go with the Classic AutoAir. The main reasons for this was the electronic control they supplied (complete replacement - no sliders to install) and I have their system installed in a 66 Mustang and it works well. We'll like all restorations, mine took longer than anticipated. So, about 3 weeks ago I was ready to order the system. Before ordering, I decided to look at Vintage Air again. Turns out they've updated the 69 Camaro system. It now includes an electronic control, stuff to route the A/C and heater lines through the fender well, and what looks to be a much cleaner and simpler installation then the Classic AutoAir. I also like their E-Z clip hoses and fittings. I may end up using a bulkhead connector in place of the fender well stuff they supply and the E-Z clip hose will bend in a much tighter radius.The one unknown was how well it cooled. When I saw X-77 Keith's post above put that concern to rest. So, I went ahead and ordered the Vintage Air.

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Re: Which Heat and A/C Unit?

I went with Classic Auto Air. You can choose electric or original controls, customer service was great, and they use bolts instead of glue, meaning it is self-serviceable. I don't think you can go wrong with any choice. CAA is located in Coppell, TX, which is twenty minutes from me so it made it an easier choice for me.

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Re: Which Heat and A/C Unit?

I'm a glutton for punishment... I'm doing Vintage Air and the RS grill in my '69. Found a very good video put out by Vintage Air and they are installing it in a 67-68 Camaro. A lot of the info is good for the '69 except the ducting and of course, they put the compressor on the driver's side in the BBC's. I have heard you can mount it on the passenger's side with some different brackets that will line up everything to the long water pump but I haven't dug into that yet. I'm not sure how to embed a video but here's the link:


One thing that intrigued me is that the VA tech had the fender off the donor car but not the fender liner. See pix below:
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