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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old Mar 28th, 19, 05:24 PM Thread Starter
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Hey all, hoping for some advice i know my options are very limited because i want to keep the stock distributor and this picture may be my only choice i have and that's okay but for $169.00 is it much better than point's..i really want to get it but not sure if there will be much difference so hoping for some advice..is anyone familiar with this kit from Ricks Camaro's ??(can't download the picture) Please any help would be greatly appreciated..Thanks..
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post #2 of 12 (permalink) Old Mar 29th, 19, 02:16 AM
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Re: Electronic Ignition

Since there is no link to Rick's Camaros, or a pic, it is assumed you are asking about a module such as a Pertronix that replaces the points/condenser in your current distributor?

From what I've read and used in an old VW Beetle engine, the Pertronix module worked fine. I just converted my 67 from a GM HEI back to the GM points distributor with points and condenser. So far, I've not considered switching over to a module that replaces the points, as its pricy. I suppose if someone experiences pitting on the points often, it would be worth the price, but after 4 months of having points in my distributor, the dwell is still spot on, and engine fires right up and runs great with them (points). Points usually will pit (create a bump) on one side of the contact when the condenser fails, or if you buy a cheap st of points/condenser.

Others go with a module to avoid having to check the dwell. This requires a meter to do so. Cheaper to buy a dwell meter, and adjusting the dwell is a mater of starting the engine, opening the slide door on the distributor cap, and using the correct allen wrench, adjust the dwell to 28 to 32 degrees (V8) on the dwell meter.

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I thought a kit and coil is about $120?

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The Pertronix is a two wire system. The equivalent module sold by American Auto Wire is a single wire system and from the outside has a visually stock appearance. I believe the module that Rick's sells is the AAW unit. I've been happily running one with no issues or maintenance. Worth the money....
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IDK which one Rick's (Ecklers) sells but you can buy the Pertronix one from places like Summit, Jegs and even Amazon or your local speed shop

I installed the Pertronix kit only using a stock coil. It is a 2 wire (+ & -) to coil hook up. You do need to run a new wire from IGN circuit on fuse block or cut & splice, at the firewall, the stock white resister wire that went to the + coil of the stock set up and replace that section of white wire with regular non resistor wire for the Pertronix, or any other, HEI swap.

It is a fairly simple mod to do. Read instructions. You "may" also have to shim the distributor gear which requires removing the distributor gear and punching out the roll pin to put in one or more included spacers that come with the kit. You first need to measure the rotor gap to plate distance with a feeler gauge to see if you are within the noted range in instructions. All fairly simple to do
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Hey all, hoping for some advice i know my options are very limited because i want to keep the stock distributor and this picture may be my only choice i have and that's okay but for $169.00 is it much better than point's..i really want to get it but not sure if there will be much difference so hoping for some advice..is anyone familiar with this kit from Ricks Camaro's ??(can't download the picture) Please any help would be greatly appreciated..Thanks..

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Breakerless SE is an Ignition points replacement system that is a great single wire kit so it looks stock using original cap. Easy to install and reliable.
Two wire systems and others that require a control module are all popular options. Some can be made to look single wire with looms etc. But it does sound like the "kit" you speak of from Ricks is the Breakerless SE system linked above. It is a great unit and works with most stock coils. It is made by M & H Electric Fabricators in California. Compare other units to it: Breakerless Ignition
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Re: Electronic Ignition

Breakerless Ignition is what I am using and I would use again. As stated, one wire connection and no hot wire feed.

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Breakerless Ignition is what I am using and I would use again. As stated, one wire connection and no hot wire feed.
do you use the stock yellow and white wires that go to the + side of the coil?

The white wire is a resistance wire so its voltage is about 8 (for stock points car)....doesn't the Breakerless unit require a full +12v like other HEI and ProTronix kits??

If so the braided cloth insulated white wire would be replaced with a non resistance type to feed the coil +12vdc
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You use the same wires as with the points. No additional wiring is required. It is beneficial to pull the distributor to make the conversion.

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You use the same wires as with the points. .
IDK about the Breakerless system you have but if you are using the stock white wire to the coil than your Breakerless Ignition is not getting +12v. If it does not need it fine but Pertronix is specific about wanting +12vdc using 12 gauge wire
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Re: Electronic Ignition

Breakerless system uses the same voltage and wiring as the points used. No additional dedicated 12v wiring is needed.

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Breakerless system uses the same voltage and wiring as the points used. No additional dedicated 12v wiring is needed.
Good to know the Breakerless system is a lower voltage processor to work with the stock white ballast (resistance) wire that goes to + coil (IGN)
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