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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old Feb 11th, 19, 04:38 PM Thread Starter
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Looking for shops on the west coast that sell restored roller body

Hey guys. my first post but not new to Camaros. Had a 69 for 10yrs that I lost in a fire (I know...sucks). I'm looking for a new project because it's been a while and I've got the fever again! Looking into buying a clean 1969 roller (as rust free as possible) but want a titled car (not a Year One, Dynacorn, etc car). Not opposed to them but worried about registering it in CA where I live. Plus I want some car history if possible. My question is..does anyone know of a shop or restorer that puts together clean 1969 Camaro rollers on the west coast? I've been looking into a couple of people on the east coast but the shipping is crazy so checking to see if there's someone not too far away. Any help would be greatly appreciated...
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post #2 of 18 (permalink) Old Feb 12th, 19, 05:17 AM
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Re: Looking for shops on the west coast that sell restored roller body

I know you're talking west coast, but you might want to look up Muscle Car Metal in Seabrook, NH. Tony is a great guy and does some beautiful work. I have a house not far from his shop. He's a straight shooter and sometimes that's worth the extra shipping cost.

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Re: Looking for shops on the west coast that sell restored roller body

The reason all the rebuilt rollers are on the east coast is because that is where they all rusted to the point of being nearly worthless.
You would be better off looking in your own back yard and paying a little more for a cleaner west coast car.
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Re: Looking for shops on the west coast that sell restored roller body

Rollers in good shape are hard to find and the shops that offer them on occasion want a ton.

Imho you’re better buying a solid complete car. Problem with rollers are they are missing all the small parts that really add up.

I like to buy project cars that guys have dumped a lot of time an money on and for different reasons have decided to sell. Can be bought for 50 cents on the dollar.
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The reason all the rebuilt rollers are on the east coast is because that is where they all rusted to the point of being nearly worthless.
This is true, but the part of the equation that you're missing is that they are basically new bodies. Like Dynacorn, but better and they have a regular title etc.
John has a very valid point also. When you buy a roller, you'll be nickel and dimed to death on every nut and bolt and interior part etc. At least you know for sure the body is solid though and that's where a ton of guys go wrong IMO.

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I agree with John and Dave. Even if you buy a running and driving car that seems complete
be prepared for surprises. There can be missing items and often electrical gremlins. As was
said the small stuff adds up fast.

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thanks guys. I did email Tony in NH and the shipping was a lot not to mention 22k for a 69 roller! but yea he really seems like a nice guy. Even out here rollers are expensive and yes they are rusty too. Was really hoping there was someone like Tony from Musclecar Metal out here so I could get a closer look at their shop before I buy. I've been through a build on a 69 and I don't mind buying the smaller bolts and parts (or wiring) because I'd rather not have an interior I don't like or wiring that's a huge gremlin. All new sounds good to me just want rust free and not much on the startup cost (under 15k and closer to me). You guys are awesome...thanks again!
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Just be patient and persistent with what you want. It's out there you just have to find it! Best of luck!
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thanks guys. I did email Tony in NH and the shipping was a lot not to mention 22k for a 69 roller! but yea he really seems like a nice guy. Even out here rollers are expensive and yes they are rusty too. Was really hoping there was someone like Tony from Musclecar Metal out here so I could get a closer look at their shop before I buy. I've been through a build on a 69 and I don't mind buying the smaller bolts and parts (or wiring) because I'd rather not have an interior I don't like or wiring that's a huge gremlin. All new sounds good to me just want rust free and not much on the startup cost (under 15k and closer to me). You guys are awesome...thanks again!
The completely "new" bodies that he sells like Dynacorns (but infinitely better) are $12,500. If I were building from scratch, that might be the way I'd go. As far as shops go, you're not going to see anything enlightening at Tony's shop. He works out of his house garage. He's an engineer by trade. If it were me, I'd worry more about the finished product than the facility it's built in. He is unbelievably meticulous and an excellent welder. It's not an impersonal assembly line built body. I've been to his house on numerous occasions. He's a hell of a nice guy to talk to.
Good luck in your search.

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Re: Looking for shops on the west coast that sell restored roller body

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The completely "new" bodies that he sells like Dynacorns (but infinitely better) are $12,500. If I were building from scratch, that might be the way I'd go. As far as shops go, you're not going to see anything enlightening at Tony's shop. He works out of his house garage. He's an engineer by trade. If it were me, I'd worry more about the finished product than the facility it's built in. He is unbelievably meticulous and an excellent welder. It's not an impersonal assembly line built body. I've been to his house on numerous occasions. He's a hell of a nice guy to talk to.
Good luck in your search.
Thanks for the insight bro. And yea I totally see what you mean. But it's not the shop per se as it is the interaction and seeing what they do to a car and how they think. Your insight was what I was looking for really. I like to wrench on my own ****, just know enough to know that I'm not a body man, so I leave that to the pros lol. You mentioned "The completely "new" bodies that he sells like Dynacorns (but infinitely better) are $12,500." Does he sell the body only kits like Dynacorn? If so I didn't see that on the webpage and didn't discuss i with him either...have you seen them?
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Thanks for the insight bro. And yea I totally see what you mean. But it's not the shop per se as it is the interaction and seeing what they do to a car and how they think. Your insight was what I was looking for really. I like to wrench on my own ****, just know enough to know that I'm not a body man, so I leave that to the pros lol. You mentioned "The completely "new" bodies that he sells like Dynacorns (but infinitely better) are $12,500." Does he sell the body only kits like Dynacorn? If so I didn't see that on the webpage and didn't discuss i with him either...have you seen them?
This is what he offers for $12,500 according to his website. I know a well respected body guy in CT that's here on this site a lot has bought them from him before and is happy. He can comment if he wants to. I know he has before if you search for comments about MCM.

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Does the MCM body come with a title and VIN?

If not how does that work with the DMV? Especially in Cali.

Still will need doors, trunk, and the whole front clip.

As mentioned above by the time you these parts and fit them to the body which does take a lot of time and money unless you can install and fit them yourself. Also will still need to do final bodywork and prep for paint.

That just takes care of the body. Add the front subframe, rear end, suspension and steering components and you’ll have a roller ready for paint.

Based on my experience building Camaros from the ground up I would guess you’d have $30k-$35 invested at this point. Double that by the time you have it painted and buy everything else needed to complete the car NOT including the drivetrain.

And you still have a car without Title, VIN and Trim Tags.

IMO going this route is very expensive. If you have a complete donor car to start with you could save some money.

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Re: Looking for shops on the west coast that sell restored roller body

Chris, there's a guy in Camarillo (James) that usually has 8-10 rollers at his house that he's selling from his late father's collection. As he sells them he brings new cars down from the family barn in Central California. He has some highly collectable cars in his hoard as well.

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https://ventura.craigslist.org/cto/d...814833862.html

He lives about 5 minutes from Dynacorn so you could make one trip to see all options.

I paid $7600 for my roller from another Craigslist seller, it was a stripped theft recovery. I thought it was rust free at the time because the floors and trunk looked good. Ended up replacing the front and rear window frames, the rear filler panel, the rear tail panel (damage, not rust), and had some repair done to both cowls. I'm not a welder so I paid Hot Rod Ranch in Lompoc to do it. Once my slot came up I took the car in and had it back in 2.5 weeks. Very professional and very, very good at what they do.

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Chris, there's a guy in Camarillo (James) that usually has 8-10 rollers at his house that he's selling from his late father's collection. As he sells them he brings new cars down from the family barn in Central California. He has some highly collectable cars in his hoard as well.

Some examples:

https://ventura.craigslist.org/cto/d...830660305.html
https://ventura.craigslist.org/cto/d...828351610.html
https://ventura.craigslist.org/cto/d...814833862.html

He lives about 5 minutes from Dynacorn so you could make one trip to see all options.
This guy is Camarillo is a crook.

A friend bought a roller from him and later discovered it was 2 cars (front of one and back of another) that had been welded into one across the top of the A pillar and straight across the middle of the car welded from rocker to rocker.

And of course painted flat black primer to conceal everything.

That’s the guys scam. Advertise “selling collection” yeah right, then cover with flat black.

When you ask him about specifics he plays dumb.
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