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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old Feb 11th, 20, 02:30 PM Thread Starter
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Going back to a Powerglide. Help on parts I need! Bunch of questions.

I recently got a hold of a Powerglide from a 68 Camaro.

I currently have a 700R4 in my 67 now as well as 350 motor, and console shifter.

I know my car will not be 100% correct (original powerglide was destroyed by previous owner racing) but I want to get it as close
as possible.

After looking over my car and referencing the AIM, I didn’t see what the manual calls the support assembly bolted to my frame (UPC M35 A6 part #16 on this page is what I am asking about).
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Question 1: Is this what I need minus the rod? And, Is this part the same for a column shifter as it is a floor shifter?
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Question 2: this where it would be bolted to my frame if I had one?
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Question 3: there a difference between the neutral safety switch for a Powerglide vs using one for a 700r4? Can I use the one I have now?
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Question 4: this an original offset lever that would have been on my car when it had the powerglide?
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Question 4: there a modulator pipe clip/bracket for a V8? It looks like there is one in the AIM (UPC M35 A4)

Question 5: this look like the correct/original detent for the shifter that would have been on my car with the powerglide? Just need confirmation on this one, doesn’t look to be drilled or ever welded, modified ect…
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Question 6: the cooler lines to run through the radiator? There is not a separate cooler for trans right??

Question 7: this the correct fill tube? https://www.classicmuscle.com/p-g-dipstick-tube
If so, who has the correct dipstick? I can’t find one anywhere…

Question 8: this the correct selector shaft/side gear selector?
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Im sure i will have a bunch more questions but that's it for now...Thanks,

Joe
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Re: Going back to a Powerglide. Help on parts I need! Bunch of questi

Joe from memory will answer what I can

The PG does use the radiator, PS, for cooling lines

The detent you show is for a PG floor shift

Not seeing the kick down rods/bracket in your pics. It bolts to the DS side bell housing bolts

I had a floor shift PG and don't recall anything being bolted to frame

PG does have a vac modulator. Line came from a "T" from behind carb off of intake manifold with bent metal tube going down to the vac mod on PS, rear of PG

If you want to rebuild your floor shift handle (inner springs, rod & release button) Shiftworks sells them. Where I got mine

I pulled my PG and put in a 350 using the Shiftworks shifter kit for the 3 speed detent. Nice stuff. All looks stock unless you look careful and see the PRN321 indicator plate
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Re: Going back to a Powerglide. Help on parts I need! Bunch of questi

What SoCal suggests is correct. On the shifter linkage, the '67 had a bellcrank bolted onto the side of trans. Easy enough to find, look at M35 A(, includes console shifter. Follow the AIM.
The neutral switch will bolt onto the shifter.
You may need a longer driveshaft and a PG/standard trans crossmember.

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Re: Going back to a Powerglide. Help on parts I need! Bunch of questi

Thanks for the help so far guys.

After doing more research I found the part that gets bolted to the frame is called the reverse lockout swivel. Per a parts vendor, "Mounts on the side of your sub frame and allows the reverse lock out to work properly."
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Re: Going back to a Powerglide. Help on parts I need! Bunch of questi

That bracket that mounts to the subframe appears to be just for column shift. Looking at Sheet A8 which is for D55 console (floor shift) cars I don't see it. And I don't recall it, but can't check as my car is at a restoration shop.
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That bracket that mounts to the subframe appears to be just for column shift. Looking at Sheet A8 which is for D55 console (floor shift) cars I don't see it. And I don't recall it, but can't check as my car is at a restoration shop.
I agree. I just pulled out the console shift PG from my 68 and there were no subframe mounts/brackets.

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I have a console shifted auto (orig PG changed to TH400) and it had the linkage between the trans shift arm and the steering column. I removed it to install headers and would need to modify it to put it back. The console harness also has wiring for no starting in gear which was used for both the PG, TH400 and the 700r4 I installed.

I believe this might be called "backdrive linkage" by some. It is there so you cannot switch the key to the off position and remove it from the ignition (locking the steering) unless the car is in PARK.

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Thanks for the help so far guys.

After doing more research I found the part that gets bolted to the frame is called the reverse lockout swivel. Per a parts vendor, "Mounts on the side of your sub frame and allows the reverse lock out to work properly."
I believe this part and description is for a 69 with a floor shift manual transmission. To my knowledge there was no reverse lock out until they had locking steering columns which started in 69.
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I have a console shifted auto (orig PG changed to TH400) and it had the linkage between the trans shift arm and the steering column. I removed it to install headers and would need to modify it to put it back. The console harness also has wiring for no starting in gear which was used for both the PG, TH400 and the 700r4 I installed.

I believe this might be called "backdrive linkage" by some. It is there so you cannot switch the key to the off position and remove it from the ignition (locking the steering) unless the car is in PARK.
IIRC DJD has a 69. I don't think this applies to your 67. I hope he confirms.

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Jeff - you are right I do have a '69. I looked at the '67 AIM and found the same setup for the 3 speed auto and because the OP posted a pick of a page from the '67 aim showing the same, but not showing the shifter I assumed the 'PG was the same. Look up M40 A1 to see what I'm talking about. My understanding is the steering column for the console shifter basically has the same innards as the column shift so the rod connects the trans to keep the steering wheel from locking except in park.

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I'd wonder why go back to a PG. Really high first.
For an earlier post, (my understanding is) there's no reverse lock and park is locked in the trans.
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[QUOTE=67sc;1783194043]I'd wonder why go back to a PG. Really high first.
Been wondering the same thing. Definitely not an upgrade.

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I'd wonder why go back to a PG. Really high first.
For an earlier post, (my understanding is) there's no reverse lock and park is locked in the trans.
Early on the OP said he was putting the car back to factory stock.

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Jeff - you are right I do have a '69. I looked at the '67 AIM and found the same setup for the 3 speed auto and because the OP posted a pick of a page from the '67 aim showing the same, but not showing the shifter I assumed the 'PG was the same. Look up M40 A1 to see what I'm talking about. My understanding is the steering column for the console shifter basically has the same innards as the column shift so the rod connects the trans to keep the steering wheel from locking except in park.
It's been a really long time since I worked for AAMCO trans (before 1976) R&Ring transmissions but I can't remember any connection to the steering column on a 67 or 68 with a console shift. The linkage set up on a car with column shift is similar on all models. Manual Floor shift cars and Automatics with Console and column shift cars all have similar linkage when equipped with locking columns.

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Early on the OP said he was putting the car back to factory stock.
Why not acquire the stock parts and have them for when you're selling??? Just doesn't make sense to me especially since it's not numbers matching. I'll wait for the OP to chime in. I'm curious why anyone would intentionally take a step backward with a PG.

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Why not acquire the stock parts and have them for when you're selling??? Just doesn't make sense to me especially since it's not numbers matching. I'll wait for the OP to chime in. I'm curious why anyone would intentionally take a step backward with a PG.
Dave I'm sure the OP has a good reason. I can't speak for him but I can share a story. Years ago I was at a car show in San Diego, Many of us drove down from the bay area. One of the guys was actually there ahead of the rest of us getting ready for his daughters wedding which was the same day as the show. With only a short overlap between the end of the show and the wedding, both were do-able but once we all got to the show plans caved in and I was asked to help get his car back to the hotel. To shorten this story, my wife drove my car back and I drove this perfect specimen of an all stock '67 RS powerglide. It was kind of a magical trip back in time for the 40 minute drive. No, I wasn't carving corners or leaving rubber on the road at stop lights but it really left an impression on me and I don't leave any vehicle I own completely stock. That drive gave me a new appreciation for the hobby. No not restoring my car to a 307 with 14" wheels or anything but I do find myself looking a little closer at the stock plain jane versions of our cars when I see one.
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