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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old Oct 7th, 12, 08:22 PM Thread Starter
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Mini Tub or not to Mini Tub?

Can some one please tell me the difference between Detroit speed inc Deep Tubs and there mini tub kit? Can I keep my same 12 bolt rear end with out modifications to it? What size wheels and tires can I run with these? I am a newbie so please take it easy on me. Im just trying to learn on here. Thanks!

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post #2 of 20 (permalink) Old Oct 7th, 12, 08:26 PM Thread Starter
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Mini Tub or Deep Tubs?

Can some one please tell me the difference between Detroit speed inc Deep Tubs and there mini tub kit? Can I keep my same 12 bolt rear end with out modifications to it? What size wheels and tires can I run with these? I am a newbie so please take it easy on me. Just trying to learn somehting here.

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Re: Mini Tub or not to Mini Tub???

The wheel tubs are the same. To run larger tires you need to move the shocks and the leaf springs inboard. If you search here or on Pro-Touring.com or Lateral-G.net, I'm sure you'll find threads about mini-tubbing a first gen F-body.

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Re: Mini Tub or not to Mini Tub?

You can run your stock 12 bolt with wider wheels.

If you have a 69 it will be hard to get the wheels on and off unless you narrow the rear end.

Also when you move the shocks a spring mounts inward the fuel tank may be too wide and will have to be modified or replaced with a narrow fuel tank.

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Re: Mini Tub or not to Mini Tub?

I DSE mini-tubbed my '69 earlier this year and installed the Ridetech triangulated 4-Link with single adjustable coilovers. I have the stock width 12 Bolt rearend with standard location spring mounts and 18x12 wheels w/335 tires. The only reason to narrow the rear is to get that big deep wheel lip look. My wheels have a 4 inch lip, which looks fine to me. I have no difficulty removing rear tires, and the gas tank is stock. Exhaust pipes are routed around the 4-link and gas tank.

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I DSE mini-tubbed my '69 earlier this year and installed the Ridetech triangulated 4-Link with single adjustable coilovers. I have the stock width 12 Bolt rearend with standard location spring mounts and 18x12 wheels w/335 tires. The only reason to narrow the rear is to get that big deep wheel lip look. My wheels have a 4 inch lip, which looks fine to me. I have no difficulty removing rear tires, and the gas tank is stock. Exhaust pipes are routed around the 4-link and gas tank.

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With 4 link and coil overs the stock tank works. If you move the leafs inboard probably not.

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Thanks Great info! LOve that car garymac69...great setup!!
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Thanks Great info! LOve that car garymac69...great setup!!
Thanks... the handling and ride quality was greatly improved.

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Re: Mini Tub or not to Mini Tub?

A 29.5" tire will easily fit in the standard DSE mini tubs. I have DSE mini tubs, relocated shocks and springs, shorter axles and tubes, wider wheels/tires, and a narrowed OEM style tank. I opted for this to keep visibility of it all as subtle as possible.


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I DSE mini-tubbed my '69 earlier this year and installed the Ridetech triangulated 4-Link with single adjustable coilovers. I have the stock width 12 Bolt rearend with standard location spring mounts and 18x12 wheels w/335 tires. The only reason to narrow the rear is to get that big deep wheel lip look. My wheels have a 4 inch lip, which looks fine to me. I have no difficulty removing rear tires, and the gas tank is stock. Exhaust pipes are routed around the 4-link and gas tank.

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Do you have any pics of your car from the rear so I could get a better idea???
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Do you have any pics of your car from the rear so I could get a better idea???
I'm not sure what info you need. Here is one pic from the rear.

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Re: Mini Tub or not to Mini Tub?

Great thread. Looking to mini tub mine sometime in the near future.

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A 29.5" tire will easily fit in the standard DSE mini tubs. I have DSE mini tubs, relocated shocks and springs, shorter axles and tubes, wider wheels/tires, and a narrowed OEM style tank. I opted for this to keep visibility of it all as subtle as possible.
What width tire are you running and what type of spring are you running in the rear? I mini tubbed my car and I'm trying to fit 20's on the back, the widest I could go was a 305/30/20. With a 18 I could probably fit a 335.
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What width tire are you running and what type of spring are you running in the rear? I mini tubbed my car and I'm trying to fit 20's on the back, the widest I could go was a 305/30/20. With a 18 I could probably fit a 335.
That doesn't make any sense, assuming that both tires are the same height.

A 305/30/20 is 27.2" tall, the equivalent 18" would be a 335/35/18, which is also 27.2" tall. If the tires are the same height, you won't be able to go any wider just because the rim is 18" vs 20".


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Re: Mini Tub or not to Mini Tub?

Here is a 69 camaro I built. It has the DSE mini tubs and quadralink rear suspension. Also has the narrowed tank. It has 12" x 18" rims with 335/30/18. The rear end is narrowed about 2" on each side.

We went with the narrowed tank because at first we bought the relocated leaf spring kit first then he decided the quadralink was what he wanted. The narrowed tank did help the 3" exhaust go out the back of the car.



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