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post #1 of 34 (permalink) Old Jan 29th, 14, 02:34 PM Thread Starter
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Looking into going LS in my ever-evolving 69. I would do the install myself but would prefer to purchase some kind of package ready to run than to build something myself. I see GMPP offers a Hot LS3 480HP with sensors, pedal, wiring harness and computer for about 11k. Still gonna need serpentine setup and accessories. Saw someone on here mention Texas Speed and got to looking at thier stuff. They offer an all new LS3 540 HP (built by them) with custom tuning, complete computer/wiring/sensor setup, accessory drive with the pumps and pulleys, and coil pack relocation kit. Anybody familier with these guys and/or this setup. Seems like a lot of bang for the buck. I like the idea of getting the coils off the valve covers but where would/could you put them?



http://www.texas-speed.com/p-4306-ts...y-package.aspx

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post #2 of 34 (permalink) Old Jan 29th, 14, 03:45 PM
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They are a sponsor over on LS1Tech....seem OK. Take a look, ask around ?

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read my thread that is 1 below this one. I have the hot ls3 and would never go back. plenty of HP put in by a reliable shop....

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Your total is little off. Jegs had the LS3 480hp GMPP crate for just under $6600 to the door and the matching GMPP computer, sensors, harness, etc for just under $1100. You need a few more parts but you should be able to do everything for around $10 depending on the transmission you use.

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Your total is little off. Jegs had the LS3 480hp GMPP crate for just under $6600 to the door and the matching GMPP computer, sensors, harness, etc for just under $1100. You need a few more parts but you should be able to do everything for around $10 depending on the transmission you use.
That sounds more like it, but what I'm seeing at Jegs costs 10K. Am I missing something?

http://http://www.jegs.com/p/Chevrol...27485/10002/-1

As for the trans, I'm thinking a T-56 conversion from Hurst for another 5K. That's 15K without the tank w/ in-tank fuel pump, alum. radiator w/elec fans, console conversion, pedals, etc,etc..

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That sounds more like it, but what I'm seeing at Jegs costs 10K. Am I missing something?

http://http://www.jegs.com/p/Chevrol...27485/10002/-1

As for the trans, I'm thinking a T-56 conversion from Hurst for another 5K. That's 15K without the tank w/ in-tank fuel pump, alum. radiator w/elec fans, console conversion, pedals, etc,etc..
I think he meant $10k, not $10...

Texas Speed has a good reputation. They have solid customer service over there, I haven't heard many complaints.

You could pick up a freshly rebuilt/upgraded T56 for around $3k, or buy a used one for under $2k.


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Yes, I meant $10k.

Here is the Jegs link to the GMPP LS3 480hp $6733

http://www.jegs.com/i/Chevrolet+Perf...01358/10002/-1

Also, I picked up a F-body T56 that was rebuilt, LS7 clutch, PP, flywheel, bell housing for $2100.

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I think he meant $10k, not $10...

Texas Speed has a good reputation. They have solid customer service over there, I haven't heard many complaints.

You could pick up a freshly rebuilt/upgraded T56 for around $3k, or buy a used one for under $2k.
Brent, thanks for chiming in. I sure have enjoyed following your build thread, you have done some excellent work.

I know he meant 10K, I was referring to his figures of 6600 and 1100 for a gmpp ls3 package. I see a complete package from Jegs for 10k, I wondered what I was missing.

Did you take a look at the link to TSPs LS3 540 I included in the original post? I sure would like to get your take on it.

Who has the freshly rebuilt/ upgraded T56 for 3k you mentioned?

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Yes, I meant $10k.

Here is the Jegs link to the GMPP LS3 480hp $6733

http://www.jegs.com/i/Chevrolet+Perf...01358/10002/-1

Also, I picked up a F-body T56 that was rebuilt, LS7 clutch, PP, flywheel, bell housing for $2100.
Thanks, here is the link to that engine with controller and oil pan for 10K. Would I not need the package?

http://www.jegs.com/i/Chevrolet-Perf...rentProductId=

Where did you get your trans?

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Check my thread on the LS3 hot motor swap

I'm keeping an accounting of everything

We are using the TKO 5 speed that was in it.

With fuel system, cooling system, headers, hydraulic clutch and all the other misc. items It's looking like just north of $12K and I'm a careful and very good shopper.

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Check my thread on the LS3 hot motor swap

I'm keeping an accounting of everything

We are using the TKO 5 speed that was in it.

With fuel system, cooling system, headers, hydraulic clutch and all the other misc. items It's looking like just north of $12K and I'm a careful and very good shopper.
Thanks Vegas, I've been following it closely along with several others. The only thing I don't like about the LS is the way it looks. I'm willing to learn to like it because of all the performance benefits. If you get a chance take a look at the TSP LS3 540 package. Comes complete, accessory drive package, custom tuned ECM, coil pack relocation kit, etc. They build it with all new GM stuff and warrenty it for 1 year. Heres the link:

http://http://www.texas-speed.com/p-...y-package.aspx

for some reason there is no pic of the 540 version, here is a pic of the same thing different hp:

http://http://www.texas-speed.com/p-...y-package.aspx

Sure like the way that thing looks and the performance specs are awesome, might be worth a couple extra bucks.

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Let me try those links again,

http://www.texas-speed.com/p-4306-ts...y-package.aspx

http://www.texas-speed.com/p-3581-ts...y-package.aspx

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Thanks Vegas, I've been following it closely along with several others. The only thing I don't like about the LS is the way it looks. I'm willing to learn to like it because of all the performance benefits. If you get a chance take a look at the TSP LS3 540 package. Comes complete, accessory drive package, custom tuned ECM, coil pack relocation kit, etc. They build it with all new GM stuff and warrenty it for 1 year. Heres the link:
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All depends on how much power you want and to me more important is how you intend to use the car.

The best bang for the buck is the GM Performance LS3/480. This is rated with stock exhaust manifold so with a good set of headers it should be around 500.

The TSP LS3 540 is $11k and the 570 $12.5k

For how you intend to use the car is the extra 50 or so hp worth the money?

The C6 drive with AC will not work on a 1st Gen unless you modify the subframe. Best way is to buy the drive without AC then use a relocate bracket fir the AC compressor.

You can build a 600 HP LS motor for substantially less then the advertised crate motors. Just depends on what you're looking for, your budget and how much of the work you can do yourself.

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Brent, thanks for chiming in. I sure have enjoyed following your build thread, you have done some excellent work.

I know he meant 10K, I was referring to his figures of 6600 and 1100 for a gmpp ls3 package. I see a complete package from Jegs for 10k, I wondered what I was missing.

Did you take a look at the link to TSPs LS3 540 I included in the original post? I sure would like to get your take on it.

Who has the freshly rebuilt/ upgraded T56 for 3k you mentioned?

Thanks
Thanks. I think the $10k Jegs estimate was engine, accessories and transmission for that $6600 engine. I haven't looked too deeply into all their different packages. Some of the others here have looked into/gone down that route so they would know better.

Yes, that 540hp LS3 looks like a nice complete package. It just depends on how much power you need and how you want to make it. I probably make close to 540hp at the crank and did it with a junkyard 6.0, ported 243 heads, cam, edelbrock intake. Way less than the crate stuff, but no warranty and I pieced it all together myself. If it breaks, I have to fix it myself too.

Check in with dondb, he just ordered a rebuilt & upgraded T56 from somewhere down south, he has an engine thread here in the PT section. They built it the way he wanted. If you can find a used T56 cheap, send it off to Tick Performance, they do great work and have 3 or 4 different levels performance T56's.


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I picked up this 2005 GTO T56 upgraded to a level 2 by a person in Texas for $2,300. He was fantastic to work with and has loads of experience with rebuilding T56 trannies. If you are looking and interested PM me and i'll get you his info.

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