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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old Oct 5th, 14, 04:15 AM Thread Starter
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How much of a 1998-2002 LS1 donor car can I use for a drivetrain swap?

So I'm looking into purchasing a 98-2002 donor ls1 car either camaro or trans am. I'd like a ls1 with a 6 speed to drop in my 67 camaro. From your experience is it worth buying a whole car for this? I've noticed that the drive trains aren't cheap and that I can buy a car for nearly the same price. I figure the advantage with the whole car would be that I get all necessary wiring and ecu as well, but would I be better off getting a aftermarket harness anyway? Lastly are the 98-02 rears able to be easily swapped? Would like to have an easy rear disc conversion. Let me know your thoughts, toying around with the idea at this point.
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post #2 of 8 (permalink) Old Oct 5th, 14, 05:21 AM
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The LS1 rear disc conversion is detailed in a sticky here somewhere, pretty straightforward. I don't know that I would swap the whole rear into your 1st gen. For one thing, its not going to be set up for 1st gen rear suspension (leaf springs, etc) and the dimensions are probably wrong. Second, and a bigger issue to me, is that those rear ends in stock form weren't known for taking a ton of abuse, especially if HP was raised above stock. I think your idea is sound though. By taking the whole car and taking what you need, you can likely part out the rest and recover a ton of what you bought it for. Stuff like interior, body panels, trim, and front end parts should sell well as there are a lot of the 4th gen cars on the road.

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Depends how much $$$ the entire car is and what's left of it. I will tell you those cars are worth more apart than they are together, to your point. Over on LS1Tech.com there are always 5 or 6 guys parting out a car.

The LS1 and T56 can be used for sure. Brakes with some new Kore3 brackets can be used too. The rear itself is not typically used as a direct swap, however it's a rear and I'm sure you can probably cut all the mounts off and start over. They are probably wider than 1st Gen Fbody. Front seats can be reused with little effort also, some have redone the entire interior with a 4th gen swap.

Harness and computer are relative, you can reuse but I personally think it's not worth the effort to reuse the harness. Re flashing the computer will save you a couple bucks.

Oil pan will need to be modified but can be used. If you can't do it yourself, weld that is, the Holley swap pan maybe a good option.

I did the LS3/T56 swap with all Holley parts and I did not cut anything.

Good luck. Lots of info here, Pro-Touring.com, and LS1Tech.com.

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Re: How much of a 1998-2002 LS1 donor car can I use for a drivetrain s

Agree with the part-out concept. I paid $100 for this console. Works great after some dremel work for fitment. Gives you an idea what you can get by piecing it out.


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The 98's have different valve covers than 99-2002. They are perimeter bolt and the coils mount directly to the cover. 99 & up are center bolt and the coils bolt to a bracket that bolts to the cover. The heads are a different part number also. 2001 & 2 engines have an LS6 intake manifold. LS6 manifolds have no provision for the EGR valve as the engine didn't need it those years.

If it was me I'd look for a 2001 or 2002 Z28 with the 6 speed you want.

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What kind of money are you talking in purchasing the car? If that is not too forward of a question. Don't answer if you don't want to, but i was going to say that the newer 6.0 engines are getting cheaper all the time, and i can get them for as low as $700 around here for an iron block, $1000 for the better escalade engines. Then an aftermarket harness and all the other goodies necessary puts it around 3k with a trans. Not that the Ls1 isn't a good engine, they are, just depends on what direction you are trying to go as far as how much power you are wanting or if you want just stock reliability of a newer setup.

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What I'm finding in the f body's have high mileage and most of them have been beat on pretty hard.

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sorry for the delay guys and thanks for all the responses. Yes I have encountered the same issue cheap cars have high mileage. Just like the idea of EFI and a 6 speed. I havent ruled it out as an idea I just think I will focus on the bodywork for now and if a deal comes my way I will go for it. Thanks again for the links, ideas and advice.
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