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Old Sep 27th, 15, 03:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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I do not own a camaro. I'm a Ford guy but I'm looking to help my friend out with his 99 camaro ss with t tops. His only mods now are long tubes full all exhaust and a tune. He says he makes 400whp? It was a mail tune not a dyno tune. Anyways whats the limit on the stock bottom end whp wise? He wants to keep it reliable and not touch the bottom end what should his next mods be for about 500whp? I did ported heads and cams on my new edge mustang with pretty much full bolt ons minus long tubes and underwrite pulleys and I put a good whoopin on him. I make only 331whp on a step colder plug without spray. He wants a procharger pretty much. Any input is appreciated and does he really make 400whp with long tubes,map, exhaust and tune? If so why don't he win lol? He is a good driver also...
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Old Sep 27th, 15, 03:54 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: My friends 99 ss talk...

Stock bottom end LS motors are said to handle 1000+FWHP

With what he has done so far, I think that may be FWHP not RWHP.

A buddy threw on a S480 ebay turbo on his LY6 (LQ4 6.0L w/ LS3 heads) Bone stock other than it was carbed, a cam and matching springs for the turbo.....made 1067.

So his plan isn't all that bad.

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Old Oct 1st, 15, 12:46 PM   #4 (permalink)
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With LT's, 2-1/2" diameter duals with an X-pipe and dumped at the axle, MagnaFlow mufflers, smooth bellows, SLP lid and cut out bottom of box and surrounding area (more airflow) and a Dyno tune my 02 Z28 put down 343rwhp/357rwt on a Dynojet. Nothing was done internally. Bone stock dyno was 308rwhp/323rwt. I was just about to cam it (I had purchased an MS3 cam and kit - .603/.609 lift with 237/242 duration - biggest you can go without fly cutting the pistons) when I moved back to Cali and had to press her back into DD service so put it all back to stock due to Cali's Nazi-like smog laws.

Along with other items (tires, stall TC, modded tranny, SFC's, adjustable torque arm, etc) the end result was consistent 1.7x 60' times and a 12.5x @ 109+ in the 1/4 mile. This was at Firebired Raceway in Phoenix with a DA of 3500+ so figure faster at sea level.

I raced that car every weekend the track was open for 5-6 years without any problem from the engine. The weak kneed rear axle on the other hand *sigh* I never should have modded in the 1st place. I broke gears (or welded pinions to bearings) 3 times...
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Old Oct 1st, 15, 02:29 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Tell him this will end all his worries. He won't have to worry about the bottom any. Tell him to call Summit Racing to get all the information about this system. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/pc...t/model/camaro. What's the old saying If you want to play you gotta pay!
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Old Oct 2nd, 15, 10:38 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I do not own a camaro. I'm a Ford guy but I'm looking to help my friend out with his 99 camaro ss with t tops. His only mods now are long tubes full all exhaust and a tune. He says he makes 400whp?
He left out the "f" in front of whp. And that's being generous with a mail order tune.
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What's fwhp? No my friend said he makes 400ish whp. But never had it dynod. And why can I beat him on motor alone when I only make 287whp on motor on a dynojet.
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He runs race gas all the time and beats the piss outta that thing last week his driveshaft dropped to the ground. He had no more Ford jokes for me after that one haha.
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Re: My friends 99 ss talk...

I had a 2000 SS with longtubes , mailorder tune and a couple other mods and made 320 rwhp through an AT. No way he's making 400 rwhp but if he has a manual trans then it's probably around 325-340 rwhp.
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Old Oct 7th, 15, 03:38 AM   #10 (permalink)
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What's fwhp?
Flywheel horsepower.

He has read too many forums about how you can get a 400hp LS1 with longtubes, exhaust, air lid, and a perfect tune.....and you can, but at the flywheel.....and is confused. "But never had it dynoed." Well there you go.

You yourself seem to have lost hp between posts. 331hp one day and 287hp the next.
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Old Oct 7th, 15, 12:09 PM   #11 (permalink)
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He runs race gas all the time and beats the piss outta that thing last week his driveshaft dropped to the ground. He had no more Ford jokes for me after that one haha.
Truth be told if you run race gas and don't retune (reflash the PCM with different timing tables, etc) to take advantage of it then you're wasting your $$$...
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Old Oct 7th, 15, 01:05 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: My friends 99 ss talk...

Post comes off more like a Ford troll boy trying to stir Chevy v/s Ford with the "why I beat him" talk and no more Ford jokes after that etc.

Also seems like you and your boy has watch one to many episodes of Street Outlaws. Call Big Chief and have him come over with his laptop for you and dile in yer tune.
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