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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old Mar 4th, 12, 12:12 PM Thread Starter
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FAST EZ-EFI...experiences anyone?

I've been considering purchasing the the fast EZ efi system and would like to get some real life information from guys that aren't writing an advertisement for it. I'm running a 383 that dynoed at 486hp and 472tq at the flywheel, and I am currently using a 750 Holley carb. I really don't want to give up much hp, but I am not a carb tuning master and like the idea of efi. Iam planning to move to 3" magnaflow exhaust with the x pipe and a MSD 6al at the same time.

Anyone with some experience with this product have some advise?

Thank you in advance for your help!

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Re: FAST EZ-EFI...experiences anyone?

hi scott
i posted a bit ago about installing this system on a 383 stroker in a camaro..ck the threads on that if you have not allready done so..i liked the system and i can tell you the customer did too...
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I have it on a 468 and love it, replaced a 950 holley ultra. I love it, hit the key and it idles like a new car hot or cold... its a 468 roller cammed, dart heads..etc...
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Re: FAST EZ-EFI...experiences anyone?

Thank you for your responses...I was beginning to change my mind and not go that direction. Lack of response left me thinking that no one was doing it!

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Re: FAST EZ-EFI...experiences anyone?

Thank you for your responses...I was beginning to change my mind and not go that direction. Lack of response left me thinking that no one was doing it!

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Re: FAST EZ-EFI...experiences anyone?

sorry for the delays..lol...since i sold my 67 vert..i kinda stepped back for awhile...
i love these camaro's and in time will find another one...
..let me know how it goes ..you cam pm me if u like...as far as the hand held programmer we went to radio shack purchased a cable and mounted the progammer in the console so my customer could moniter the engine and adjust at will...
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by the way scott ..nice car i like the way she sits looks great..
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Re: FAST EZ-EFI...experiences anyone?

Hardest part is running the return line....once you get it running it is great!

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sorry for the delays..lol...since i sold my 67 vert..i kinda stepped back for awhile...
i love these camaro's and in time will find another one...
..let me know how it goes ..you cam pm me if u like...as far as the hand held programmer we went to radio shack purchased a cable and mounted the progammer in the console so my customer could moniter the engine and adjust at will...
That is a great idea! One of the many obstacles that have been running through my mind. I have several items on the "to do" list and daily have changed my mind about 10 times a day....so far today I plan to place an order it on Monday!

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Hardest part is running the return line....once you get it running it is great!
I've been thinking about welding a piece of steel tubing into the sender, how I'd you do yours?

Also, what about a vent, is the stock vent cap enough? I seen where others have said no, and some have said yes...with a return line feeding back to the tank, and the fact that the car will not be consuming any more fuel than it normally does...why would the stock vent cap not work?

I currently have an electric pump (6-7psi), and have no venting/vacuum issue, is the initial pull of the higher psi pump really enough to overcome the vent?

I really don't think I want a carbon canister hangin around..any other ideas?

Sorry for rambling on...thinking out loud...I really do appreciate the help!

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by the way scott ..nice car i like the way she sits looks great..
Thank you, my wife calls her my "mistress", fortunately for me she loves "Lucy" too!

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Re: FAST EZ-EFI...experiences anyone?

I actually replaced my Factory Fuel Tank with a Specter 67-68 F-body tank fitted for EFI with the pump inside. It is set up already for return, but if you are going to run the return through the sender, try to make it long enough inside the tank to aim it away from the pick up. I would also make it long enough to reach the bottom of the tank or at least close. This will allow the fuel returning to be under the existing fuel. This will prevent splash, and prevent it from causing excessive vapor. Some who have done this have had a short tube inside the tank, and they get a lot of Gas Fumes smell when the car is placed in the Garage after driving. Think about placing a small amount of gas in a gas can, closing the lid and shaking it. When you remove the lid you will get that whoosh of fumes.
I did so much research on this before I bought my injection it made my head hurt, and as usual I over engineered the system to include a small surge tank in the engine compartment, but I have never had a problem, and I used the car on the track, European style Road Racing, and even playing with trying to drift the car on a dare, and I never get a stall.
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Re: FAST EZ-EFI...experiences anyone?

I used the Moroso kit:
http://www.moroso.com/catalog/catego...?catcode=32029

And yes the stock cap venting works fine. I used my existing SS supply line and converted it to my return line.

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I've been thinking about welding a piece of steel tubing into the sender, how I'd you do yours?

Also, what about a vent, is the stock vent cap enough? I seen where others have said no, and some have said yes...with a return line feeding back to the tank, and the fact that the car will not be consuming any more fuel than it normally does...why would the stock vent cap not work?

I currently have an electric pump (6-7psi), and have no venting/vacuum issue, is the initial pull of the higher psi pump really enough to overcome the vent?

I really don't think I want a carbon canister hangin around..any other ideas?

Sorry for rambling on...thinking out loud...I really do appreciate the help!

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If you feel you need a canister, You could run one. I suggest using the one from the new Ford Fiesta. It actually mounts under the tank on that car, so it is made to be outside of the Engine compartment. I would place it under the car near your fuel pump. Just an Idea. I don't have one, and have not had a problem, but I have seen some people say they have a fumes smell. I actually think that is from using the wrong fuel lines.
I used Stainless 3/8 fuel lines from the tank to the engine compartment, then a short run of Teflon lined braided line from the steel line to my surge tank, and from the surge tank to the unit, from the unit to the pressure regulator and from the regulator back to the surge tank. Looks real professional, and I had the hoses made at my local NAPA, so they look like a factory line.
When I worked construction we used NAPA to make all of our hydraulic High Pressure lines, so when I needed these, I just ask them if they could make the proper an6 lines and they said they could if I brought them the measurements. I like the look and it has pressed Stainless connectors. No Leaks.

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Re: FAST EZ-EFI...experiences anyone?

Great info guys! Unfortunately I am stuck I the middle of a project at work and do not have time to work on the car, but have plenty of time to think about all the options to make it work.

Have either of you heard of tanks inc? I spoke with them Friday and they have a baffled tank coming out toward the end of may that will allow the use of an in tank pump with a price of about 220 for the tank and 220 ish for the pump. I believe it is just a stock tank with a baffle (pan) welded to the bottom, is that what the spectra tank is? I spoke to them as well and they said they have a "new" design that puts a baffle into their "pan" that is supposed to eliminate any possible issue of fuel starvation problems. That tank is supposed to be available in three months or so.

So...what to do...buy the spectra that some say have problems and some say not that is available now or wait on one of these two tanks. Or...buy the pump kit from fast with the Morroso return kit and the stock tank. Arrhhhgg so many options, I just want it to work the first time and not have to spend more time and money re doing it.

I'll only run a canister if the wife starts complaining, but she doesn't really complain about the rich smell in our garage now.

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