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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old Oct 26th, 16, 07:30 PM Thread Starter
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1967 Camaro FiTech Build

I purchased a 1967 Camaro about a month ago and decided to go fuel injection. Car is a 350 small block and TH350 transmission. After a ton of research, this is my plan.
-Ricks Tank Restomod Tank - comes with new 2016 OEM SS Camaro pump in the tank RestoMod Fuel Tanks - Rick's Tanks
-fitech up to 600 HP
-Painless wiring with breaker relay Weatherproof Fuel Pump Relay KitDetails | Painless Performance


With this setup, the pump is designed for 58 psi, which is exactly needed for the FiTech. Therefore, I will not need an inline regulator and pump is in the tank. Also filters are in the tank. All I will need to run is fuel line and will not have to have return line either. I did not like the look of the fuel command deal that FiTech makes.

So far, all I have done is remove fuel pump and put block off plate, remove old quadrajet, remove old fuel tank and lines.


I am going to post some pics as I get done, but I think this will be the cleanest way to run the EFI setup. I hope this helps others. I looked everywhere before doing this setup.
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post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old Oct 26th, 16, 07:53 PM
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Re: 1967 Camaro FiTech Build

I just completed the FAST EZ EFI install on a 383. Used Tanks inc EFI tank with 255L in tank pump and the Corvette Filter/Regulator which regulates to 58 psi.

Same set up I use on my LS swaps.

Did the initial set up with the handheld and it performs perfect.

Good luck with the Fitech
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Re: 1967 Camaro FiTech Build

You'll still need a return line. FYI.

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You'll still need a return line. FYI.
Yes the corvette regulator returns to the tank. Nice thing is it's mounted close to the tank and you run a single fuel line to the engine
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Re: 1967 Camaro FiTech Build

According to this link you don't need one if you have an external regulator. You can block (or cap it off) the return line. I am running the vaporworx tank on my LS3 and it is great! Both systems require 58 PSI. Be sure to run PTFE style fuel line.

Do I need a return line? ? FiTech Fuel Injection

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According to this link you don't need one if you have an external regulator. You can block (or cap it off) the return line. I am running the vaporworx tank on my LS3 and it is great! Both systems require 58 PSI. Be sure to run PTFE style fuel line.

Do I need a return line? ? FiTech Fuel Injection
The tech post reads you can block off the return at the TB.

If you have an external bypass regulator the bypassed fuel returns to the tank.

I believe the 5th Gen pump regulates with PWM so not sure how it would work with a basic FP relay.

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The tech post reads you can block off the return at the TB.

If you have an external bypass regulator the bypassed fuel returns to the tank.

I believe the 5th Gen pump regulates with PWM so not sure how it would work with a basic FP relay.
John, the OP was asking about using the FITech with a Vaporworx tank. The Vaporworx system uses a 5th gen fuel module assembly. It has the pump, regulator and filter in one assembly. The LS3/L99 pump assembly (which is standard in the Vaporworx setup) has an "regulated" output of 58 PSI. My VW setup only has a power, ground and sender wires. You don't start dealing with PWM functions unless you have ZL1 and CTSV pumps and supercharging (not sure with other type power adders). The VW only has one line connection and no provisions for a return line. Th bypassed fuel never leaves the tank.


Just trying to stick with questions that are asked and not how they relate them to other different systems people are using. They do the same thing just differently. There are other options besides the Tanks inc setup.

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Re: 1967 Camaro FiTech Build

I wasn't referencing the Tanks set up I just wasn't sure how the 5th Gen pump worked. Sounds like a neat setup to regulate everything inside the tank.

One note on the painless relay set up.

I just installed a similar kit for a FAST set up and the 30 amp circuit breaker would trip after about 15 seconds and the engine would shut off. Would immediately restart and then shut off again. Pain in the A to figure out what was going on. Lol

I removed the CB and everything works great. I talked FAST and they never use one and also based on the fact I had never used a circuit breaker in any of my other electric fuel pump builds.

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Re: 1967 Camaro FiTech Build

Good luck with the set up.

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John, the OP was asking about using the FITech with a Vaporworx tank. The Vaporworx system uses a 5th gen fuel module assembly. It has the pump, regulator and filter in one assembly. The LS3/L99 pump assembly (which is standard in the Vaporworx setup) has an "regulated" output of 58 PSI. My VW setup only has a power, ground and sender wires. You don't start dealing with PWM functions unless you have ZL1 and CTSV pumps and supercharging (not sure with other type power adders). The VW only has one line connection and no provisions for a return line. Th bypassed fuel never leaves the tank.


Just trying to stick with questions that are asked and not how they relate them to other different systems people are using. They do the same thing just differently. There are other options besides the Tanks inc setup.
Hi Chris. Ricks changes the regulator on the LS3/L99 pump to get 58psi. All stock 5th gen pumps Camaros have high pressure regulators and use PWM. Ricks has to pull the high pressure regulators and install 58 psi regulators for the non PWM tanks like you have. I know this because I had to change one back to run a Vaporworx PWM controller on an LS3. They told me they have hundreds of the high pressure regulators that they have pulled out.

PWM control essentially regulates fuel pressure by toggling the pump on and off with a varying duty cycle. Advantage is less heat generated by the pump versus the pump on 100% of the time with a return regulator.

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