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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old Nov 11th, 08, 03:16 PM Thread Starter
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Front seats and roll bar clearance

Hey guys, I have a 68 SS I am doing a body off and am looking for seats that will sit low enough to give me the clearance NHRA (3") needs to let me run. Since I will terrifying my wife on the street with the car also comfy would be very nice. Any advise on installed height on the main hoop?
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post #2 of 14 (permalink) Old Nov 11th, 08, 03:57 PM Thread Starter
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Not sure about the ? what 3" does nhra require and for what!

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The rule I think states the bar needs to run between your elbow and your shoulder.What you really need to watch is how it effects your armrest.I did drop bars but they are illegal I just dont like swing outs and I am a big guy and dont want to fight getting in and out.

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Interesting thread because i just called a guy to come out and look at my Car to install a roll bar yesterday i new they had to meet between shoulder and elbow but did not know drop bars are illegal!
Guess what to bad because im getting drop bars lol

I to do not like climbing in the car and not to mention rubbing all the paint off the bars nicking them up etc so a drop bar it will be for me im running crysler bucket seats, and made my own seat brackets to fit the height i personally needed. heres a pic of pretty much how i want my side bars to
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And with the bar at seat level on the side i can make a custom panel to cover the seat sides and the bar will be paneled behind it so it covers the brackets etc.



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Re: Front seats and roll bar clearance

The rulebook states the main hoop must be no less than 3 inches from the helmut.
However, with a headliner installed and seat installed with driver sitting, the helmut is below the main hoop. Mine passes tech.

The side bars must pass through the drivers's arm between the shoulder and elbow.
If you have a custom door panel, the molded armrest will not work. I had to get standard door panel and remove the armrest.

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Great explanation thanks. And very good point about Arm Rests that was what i had planned on doing to mine is designing the arm rests around the cage!

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Re: Front seats and roll bar clearance

I have the swing out bars in my car. I never put them in, only when I go to the track which has been a while. I just added deluxe door panels and the bars dont fit. I used to do like the others do, remove the arm rest. Now I have to remove the door panel if I take it to the track.

I would make the roll bar as high as you can get it without hitting the headliner. Unless you dont plan on putting one in. Also putting in a headliner with a roll bar installed is a pain.

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Unless you dont plan on putting one in. Also putting in a headliner with a roll bar installed is a pain.
It is difficult, but doable with headliner in. Temporary place shielding on headliner to prevent burn holes from splatter. I used 0.02" alum sheet.

If you decide to have a headliner, you want it installed so you can adjust the height of the main loop for not only the headliner, but room for the added cushioning on the bar as stated in the rule book.

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.......I had to get standard door panel and remove the armrest.

Hey Ev........I sanded the backside of my armrest bases on a horizontal sander just enough so they clear the door bar on my Camaro.

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Re: Front seats and roll bar clearance

Thanks for all the input guys, My biggest concern was the 3" clearance between the top of the helmet and the bottom of the main hoop. I had been told to do the headliner last is that a real bad idea? It would be a lot easier to do it now with the car apart. and I was at a car show and saw a 68 with deluxe door panels with the side bar angled out to fit around it, I called NHRA and they siad the bar can have a curve in it. It does not have to be a straight run. What seats are you guys running in your rides these days?

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.....What seats are you guys running in your rides these days?

Thanks Aric
........ JAZ racing bucket seats.......yeah they're a little outdated...I plan on upgrading the seats in the future.

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Re: Front seats and roll bar clearance

I'm on the verge of making my 4 point a 6 point by adding the door bars too. I know the "drop bars" or "pro street bars" are illegal as per NHRA but was thinking of swing-outs or... just make my bars shorter and not go all the way to the front of the door ?

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Re: Front seats and roll bar clearance

The NHRA guys are great to talk to they have answered a lot of my questions, when I asked if the door bars could have a bend they also told me I could still use the swing outs. Hey are you guys still mounting your seats to original mounting pad or have you cut that out and mounting them to the floor pan?

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