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post #1 of 38 (permalink) Old Feb 11th, 09, 05:24 PM Thread Starter
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Another Firewall Thread

I thought it would be a better idea to start a new thread rather than hijack the previous smoothed firewall thread. This section needs more threads to keep it fresh anyways. This section also tends to stick with one thread too long and get gets side tracked (IMO).

The car is a 1970 Nova and not "Pro Street" because it will only have 12" wide tires out back. Other than the tire size it will have all the goods (cage, blower, skinnies up front, etc..).

This is basically a step by step pictorial of how I like to fabricate and it might be helpful to others planning to try to do some fabrication but, don't know where to start.

Before: (I couldn't stand the "wrinkles") The previous owner also beat the firewall upi pretty good with a hammer for "clearance"



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I'm not quite done yet. I will finish it up in the next day or two and update this post. I decided again a completely smooth firewall, I have had several cars with them and wanted something different. When finished this firewall will have a smooth lip running accross the seam. Ok I have to run tto work more on this later. I hope it halps some of the guys that don't have a bunch of experience. You can do it and it only takes basic hand tools and a welder.

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post #2 of 38 (permalink) Old Feb 11th, 09, 05:34 PM
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Royce, thanks for sharing the pictures and knowledge.Keep the updates coming!!!

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Nice work Royce
Like the pattern details
Isn't it fun repairing some of the 'caveman' type hammer work you find sometimes

I was a bit confused at first - not used to seeing a Chevy in your shop
Wait !!! where's the Buick ???

Good idea to start threads on different aspects of fabrication

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post #4 of 38 (permalink) Old Feb 11th, 09, 05:48 PM
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i like the slightly smooth firewall look.mine was rotted under so i replaced the whole thing with a repo.but still had tu fill a bunch of holes.

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Great color looks amazing keep those pics comming!

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post #6 of 38 (permalink) Old Feb 12th, 09, 07:06 AM Thread Starter
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WOW, my spelling was terrible. That's what happens when you rush. For some reason I can't edit the first post.

Here's a spelling key, lol "again" was supposed to be against, "halps" = helps, "tto" = to

I have a few screw holes to fill, no biggie and the upper portion of the firewall is in very good shape. I decided not to totally delete the wipers on this car. I will make a bolt on, block off plate for the wiper motor. That way if I want wipers later it will be a simple fix.

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I didn't even notice the firewall was "adjusted" until after I pulled the engine out and was cleaning up the firewall.

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Nice job Royce, now you can come over to weld my subframe connectors. I wish i could fabricate and weld. You guys make it look easy.

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Looks great Royce,

Have you thought about relocating the wiper motor to the firewall / cowl area under the drivers fender? I have seen a few pictures on here about it.

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Nice job Royce, now you can come over to weld my subframe connectors. I wish i could fabricate and weld. You guys make it look easy.
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You can do it! Seriously it's not hard. TIG welding takes some practice/talent but, just about anyone can MIG weld. When I bought my first wire feed welder (long time ago) I had my wife welding in about 15 minutes.

Fabricating just takes an imagination and patience. If you can picture it in your head, you can make it.

Do you have bolt in connectors that you want welded or weld in connectors?

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Looka great Royce,

Have you thought about relocating the wiper motor to the firewall / cowl area under the drivers fender? I have seen a few pictures on here about it.
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I have never heard of this. If you get time, share some info about this. I would be interested in taking a look. I normally don't run wipers (not really needed here) we don't have thunder storms for out of nowhere like other places. You know well in advance if there is a chance of rain and I usually don't drive my toys in the rain.

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Skip,
You can do it! Seriously it's not hard. TIG welding takes some practice/talent but, just about anyone can MIG weld. When I bought my first wire feed welder (long time ago) I had my wife welding in about 15 minutes.

Fabricating just takes an imagination and patience. If you can picture it in your head, you can make it.

Do you have bolt in connectors that you want welded or weld in connectors?
See there you go making it sound so easy... lol.. Yeah i have the Hotchkis frame connectors, that are both a bolt in and or weld. I think what im gonna do is grind and clean up the metal to be welded and bolt it in, then drive it to my buddy's shop and have him weld it... He wont let me touch his welder.

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I have never heard of this. If you get time, share some info about this. I would be interested in taking a look. I normally don't run wipers (not really needed here) we don't have thunder storms for out of nowhere like other places. You know well in advance if there is a chance of rain and I usually don't drive my toys in the rain.
Royce,

The one I saw was they cut out the mounting flange for the wiper and moved it to the cowl area under the drivers fender. That way the factory motor could be reused. Then they modified the arm to reach the motor. I looked for the thread but could not find it.

Here is one way of doing it.

http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/show...ighlight=wiper

https://www.camaros.net/forums/showth...ht=wiper+motor

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See there you go making it sound so easy... lol.. Yeah i have the Hotchkis frame connectors, that are both a bolt in and or weld. I think what im gonna do is grind and clean up the metal to be welded and bolt it in, then drive it to my buddy's shop and have him weld it... He wont let me touch his welder.
I just put in the DSE subframe connectors in the protouring 69 I am doing. They are the weld-in type. It wasn't that hard to do. The only thing I dont like is they stick up about 1-1/2" into the rear floorboard.

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See there you go making it sound so easy... lol.. Yeah i have the Hotchkis frame connectors, that are both a bolt in and or weld. I think what im gonna do is grind and clean up the metal to be welded and bolt it in, then drive it to my buddy's shop and have him weld it... He wont let me touch his welder.
Skip, It's always good to have friends like that. I wouldn't have a problem doing it for you but, my little shop is full of Nova right now. Better yet I would let you do it that way, you would be hooked.

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Royce,

The one I saw was they cut out the mounting flange for the wiper and moved it to the cowl area under the drivers fender. That way the factory motor could be reused. Then they modified the arm to reach the motor. I looked for the thread but could not find it.

Here is one way of doing it.

http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/show...ighlight=wiper

https://www.camaros.net/forums/showth...ht=wiper+motor
Just great Mike! Now I have to add that to my list, I was trying to keep this built simple and short, lol. Thanks for looking that up for me. I like the idea of sticking the GM wiper motor under the fender. I'll look into it, for sure.

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