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Ladder Bar Rear Suspension

My camaro has a ladder bar rear suspension with a panhard bar. I built this car about 17 years ago. I want to do away with the panhard bar. I really dont want a track locator because of muffler issues. My panhard bar is only about 12" long because of the narrowed frame rails.

What other system do they have now?

The car has 4 link frame rails but I really did not want to go change it all to a 4 link system.

I used to run the the poly bushings from Art Morrision on the ladder bars and panhard bar. But went to all steel rod ends and now it makes noises and alot rougher ride.

Any suggestions welcome.

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Re: Ladder Bar Rear Suspension

You only have two possible other choices either a Watts Link or a Panhard Bar. If there are other options out there I have never seen them. Panhard bar would be the easiest and cheapest to do. Just depends on what you have to work with.

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Re: Ladder Bar Rear Suspension

Yea I already have a panhard bar on the car now. And when I grab it and turn it hits the brackets and that is one of the noises I hear. Other option is to go back poly bushings from Art Morrison.

Royce, what are you using on your rear suspension?

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Re: Ladder Bar Rear Suspension

My car is a 4-link and I use a track bar.

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Re: Ladder Bar Rear Suspension

Mike - I used a wishbone because of tight tire and exhaust issues. Here's a brief video from underneath -

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Re: Ladder Bar Rear Suspension

I'm no expert bit I think you should go back to poly bushings. They are the only thing that is helping you when your ladder bar suspension binds in corners etc. Johnny joints would be another option. Art Morrison sells them.

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I'm no expert bit I think you should go back to poly bushings. They are the only thing that is helping you when your ladder bar suspension binds in corners etc. Johnny joints would be another option. Art Morrison sells them.

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Don,, you are right. That is what I decided to do. I just hate that I spent about $350.00 for all the rod ends and now I cant find the poly ones I had. So I will just have to buy new poly ends.

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Don,, you are right. That is what I decided to do. I just hate that I spent about $350.00 for all the rod ends and now I cant find the poly ones I had. So I will just have to buy new poly ends.
Johnny joints on one end might get you there too:

http://www.artmorrison.com/2006cat/21.pdf

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I like the idea of the Johnny Joint, but wonder what they cost? Those would be nice on my 4-link, but the size could be an issue.

Mike, the good thing is the urethane ends are a lot cheaper than the rod ends.

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I like the idea of the Johnny Joint, but wonder what they cost? Those would be nice on my 4-link, but the size could be an issue.

Mike, the good thing is the urethane ends are a lot cheaper than the rod ends.
Yes I have replaced the poly ends before. I have a spare set at the house now but I cant find the rod ends. I usually had to replace them about every 4 years.

I will look into the Johnny Joint.

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