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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old Mar 19th, 14, 03:07 AM Thread Starter
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Hello guys,
I was just wondering if there's anyone out there who has a Street Car I think that this falls under Pro Street. I have a Green 69 RS/SS 350 project I am currently working on. I had thought about making the car Numbers Matching but was really turned onto the Pro Street/Street Car scene after going through some old photographs from car shows over a decade ago. I also looked into Pro Touring but grew out of it fast. There are a few First Gen Street Cars here in Hawaii that I know of.

I do not plan to Mini Tub or Backhalf the car I wanna stick to stock suspension with Cal Tacs and Subframe Connectors. As for fuel tank l I'm looking at a Sumped Tank. I am going back and forth about Small Block Stroker or Big Block. I have a set of Weld Pro Stars just need to buy tires and for hoods I am looking at a Harwood or Glasstech 4". Interior wise I am looking at just bone stock White Houndstooth with all the Woodgrain Dash, Grab Bar, Console and Console Gauges down to an original Rosewood on a Tilt Column. As far as paint I have decided to eventually paint the car it's original color Rallye Green White Hockey Stick. I just want to get some ideas from TC.
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Re: Street Car Ideas

By my definition of Pro Street you needs tires that won't fit in stock or mini tubs. I think what you're describing is Resto Mod. Just my .02

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4 inch cowls are nice, but keep in mind that all fiberglass parts require 50-60 hrs of work just to make them look acceptable. They more often than not require being cut and reshaped to fit the car properly. Harwood even puts a nice sticker telling you this on their hoods when they ship them to you. As far as keeping the stock appearing suspension, hotchkis makes some very good leafs for these cars, as well a upgraded front sway bars and traction bars. Depending on what you want the car to do, engine choice is very important. If you want something very streetable, small block it. If you wanna burn the tires off easily, BBC make stupid torque numbers for cheap.

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Re: Street Car Ideas

I agree...ProStreet is usually reserved for back-halved cars.

Not that you can't call it that, but when someone says the name, it's the image in my brain.

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4 inch cowls are nice, but keep in mind that all fiberglass parts require 50-60 hrs of work just to make them look acceptable. They more often than not require being cut and reshaped to fit the car properly. Harwood even puts a nice sticker telling you this on their hoods when they ship them to you. As far as keeping the stock appearing suspension, hotchkis makes some very good leafs for these cars, as well a upgraded front sway bars and traction bars. Depending on what you want the car to do, engine choice is very important. If you want something very streetable, small block it. If you wanna burn the tires off easily, BBC make stupid torque numbers for cheap.
Depends on the brand of hood. Harwood stuff is junk for the most part. I've painted a cowl hood from VFN, and a Glasstek 6" cowl on my Camaro, both needed VERY little prep work, the VFN was actually damn near ready to paint out of the box. The Glasstek had a tiny bit of filler needed, both hoods were painted with an hours worth of work done.

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Can't go wrong with rallye green & the white hockeysticks. I've got standard white interior but white hounds would look great. May get some rims to dress her up this year but will still keep the rallys.


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Re: Street Car Ideas

Prostreet is for tubbed / narrowed / back halfed cars. Most fiberglass hoods need a little bit of work. Unlimited fiiberglass products is junk. Stay away unless that is all you can find. The rest are descent. Harwood sell a show hood that is finished on the inside too. Most others are raw / jelcoat fiberglass.

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cant go wrong with a steel 4" cowl
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By my definition of Pro Street you needs tires that won't fit in stock or mini tubs. I think what you're describing is Resto Mod. Just my .02

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So this isn't Pro Street in your book?
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No. I certainly wouldnt call that 'pro' street. It looks simply like a badass street car, hooking up hard on what appears to be 10" slicks? Thats sweet.

I agree with the term 'pro street' meaning a back-halfed and tubbed car with huge tires, usually M/T's fitting up into the tubs. Made popular in the 80's and 90's, now pretty much passť as real street cars are running 9's, 8's and even quicker on normal width slicks, without tubs or anything silly body butchery like that.


As far as the 4" cowl, personally I think they are so tall they get out of proportion and ends up looking goofy. However, if you have something under the hood to justify an actual need for a 4" cowl that is awesome.

I would simply whack a hole in the stock hood if you're going with a tunnel ram or a blower. If you're gonna run something awesome like that, show it off! 67-69 flat hoods seem to be available on craigslist every day for cheap. Here's a perfect one for $50 obo http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/pts/4614680995.html

As far as big block vs. small block, I went through this in my build plan too. I realized there is a ton of extra stuff you need to buy / modify to put a big block in your car. Since you have a small block car, just keep it a small block and build a brutal SBC. Just build a stout 383 or 400, and I think you'll be quite happy with it. With the 3.75" crank, you've got big block torque in a small block package. Besides, it is lighter, especially with aluminum heads and intake, and small block parts are always less expensive than BBC stuff.

The important thing here is that you ask me what kind of car I've got. "I've got a BITCHIN' CAMARO"
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The 69 is so ionic it is best to be left stock looking with a quality restoration complimented with unnoticeable upgrades. Not a fan of the 4" but to each his own. I would BB it with fuel injection, 5 or 6 speed, upgrade suspension, IROC steering, larger sway bars and some cool wheels, I like the 8" vette rallys. Just an old guy talkin, and the proud owner of 4 69 SS, 3 are RS, 1 Vert, Lemans Blue, Hugger Orange, Black and Silver, 2 SB, 2BB. All have trophied over the years and all restored by this old guy. Good luck and have fun with your 69.
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No. I certainly wouldnt call that 'pro' street. It looks simply like a badass street car, hooking up hard on what appears to be 10" slicks? Thats sweet.

I agree with the term 'pro street' meaning a back-halfed and tubbed car with huge tires, usually M/T's fitting up into the tubs. Made popular in the 80's and 90's, now pretty much passť as real street cars are running 9's, 8's and even quicker on normal width slicks, without tubs or anything silly body butchery like that
I agree. That is my car when a previous work owner had the blower on. It was being advertised as "pro street" (mini tub, narrowed 9" with 4.56)but I told him I thought that claims was hurting it since it was closer to a pro touring, but not quite there either. Its all motor now, with a 4 inch cowl that has less than an inch if clearance.

If anything, my car has an identity crisis.

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Everyone has their own idea I guess, but whenever I hear the term "pro touring", I immediately think of gaudy huge 17" or larger billet wheels, massive disc brakes, and lots of gee-whiz tubular suspension components, all lowered on air-bags.

I'd say that bird you have is simply a badass street machine. No need to try to pigeon hole it into some other musclecar genre.

The important thing here is that you ask me what kind of car I've got. "I've got a BITCHIN' CAMARO"
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Everyone has their own idea I guess, but whenever I hear the term "pro touring", I immediately think of gaudy huge 17" or larger billet wheels, massive disc brakes, and lots of gee-whiz tubular suspension components, all lowered on air-bags.

I'd say that bird you have is simply a badass street machine. No need to try to pigeon hole it into some other musclecar genre.
Besides being " close to Pro Street" in the back, it has tubular front suspension and adjustable coilovers on the front, traction bars in back. With a 541 V8 by Butler Performance and Roland Racing in between.
It all works together pretty well, surprisingly.

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IMHO This 69 defines Protour

LS7/T56
Mini Tubbed with 18" Wheels
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