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I just found a 69 camaro it is a Z/28 with a 305 4 speed the guy says it has the original engine in it , I found some #'s on the body tag under the drivers side , it has 06C X44
124379N????? the vin is 123379N597681 it has front disc brakes tilt wheel air conditioning deluxe seats , he wants $7000 for it does that sound fair ??? thank's
 

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The car isn't a real Z/28, the X code is wrong. The Z/28's didn't have A/C either. I don't have my books handy to check the X44 code. The 305 engine would be wrong for a 69 car, maybe a 302? If the car is nice 7k isn't a bad price either way. Good Luck. Cary

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69 Z/28 R/S : Daytona Yellow, Blk Vinyl Top, X33, DZ302, M21, 4.10 Posi, Dlx interior, 8k tach, console and guages, wood wheel and dash, ZL2 ducted hood, endura bumper.
 

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X44 is just a base coupe. I hope you meant "orginal" 302 engine and not 305. If it's a genuine 302 engine, the car would be worth more, even though it isn't an original Z/28. An x44 coupe with a unoriginal 305 engine isn't worth anywhere near an original Z/28..........KZ

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the guy swears it is factory Z/28 ???? he says it was an early car and that early Z/28's had X44 or no code at all ???? I looked under the car it has dual exhaust it has a tach in the dash ,
 

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What part of "base coupe" did you not understand? It cannot be a Z/28, this guy is obviously blowing smoke up your ***. If it were an early production car, it would not have an "X" code at all!!! The fact that it does have the X44 eliminates it from being a Z28. Probably started life as a 307/327 car........KZ

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I'll explain a little better.
X44 is a car without style trim and it can't be a Z or a SS.
The VIN is for a 6 cylinder car. But something doesn't look right.

Could you post all #'s off the trim tag? It was 06C for sure? And you posted the VIN correctly?

It is not a Z or SS, but depending on condition, it may be worth the $$.

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79z28 - The folks here won't steer you wrong. If someone does others will pipe up very quickly! Just to give you an idea a solid Z/28 numbers matching nice paint and interior will fetch $18,000 and up around here. After 31 years anything and everything happens to these cars.

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the vin I placed was correct I am not sure on the 06c it was dirty and hard to read another guy told me it was a six cylinder car ohh well it was worth a shot , thank's for the info
 

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Hey 79z28,

Is the car you're looking at in London, KY? Is his initials H. B. and does he have several old cars in his yard that he's fixing up? Let me know if this sounds like the guy you're dealing with.
 

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I dont know the mans name I heard about the car from another guy , but that sounds like the guy why???
 

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I bought a car from him. He told me so many lies about the car it ain't funny. The paint job he put on was so thin, it couldn't be buffed. He had said he put on a total of 18 coats of paint and clearcoat. He lied about the size of the motor. It didn't matter though because when I got it home and put my gauges on, it held about 5 pounds of oil pressure. He told me he had just put new back tires on. They sure looked new too. When I tried to drive it from London, one of the "new" tires blew. It had an innertube.

The car looked good at first glimpse, which was his goal. I admit I should have used some sense when I looked at it. I was younger and wanted a 1st gen Camaro REAL bad. I ended up spending about $7,000 in addition to the purchase price trying to get it right. I finally gave up.
 

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This is the kind of dealer WANNABE'S that just about drive me up the wall !!!!!!!! every ad I place these guy's call and when you start to try to trade with them it is
IMPOSSIBLE !!! they want you to give them your car and buy their's , I got so I put
NO DEALER'S in my ads but then they call and act like they are a normal person !!!!!! you can ask them before you even attempt a meet if they just want the car for personal use , and they will LIE LIE LIE !!!!!! EVERY TIME
they will say stuff like I want that car for myself I want it to ride , then show with YEP dealer tags new rollback truck then if you are asking $7000 for your car they will offer you $2500 for it all the time telling you what a piece of crap it is !!!! well I will tell them one thing they can buy a car from me but they wont take it no place and get more out of it !!! we are the one's that bust our but's to fix these car's and we are the one's that should get the credit not some smuck that think's the world owe's him !
 

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79Z, the people on this post have done a great job in confirming that the X44 car is NOT a Z/28... X coded Z's were only X77 (with out style trim) or X33 (with style trim). Don't be misled! With that being said, If you like the car... Buy It!! But use your new found information to go back and pay a price you can live with!! Click on the link below to see a real Z, with it's original motor.

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This same kind of thing happened to me about 4 years ago when I was 15. I didn't know a lot about camaros except that I really liked them. I found one that I wanted, the owner told me it was a z and I bought it. I later learned more about camaros and found out Z/28 had a 302 engine, 4-speed, console, front disc brakes. Mine had none of that, it has drums all the way around and a 350 4 barrel rated out 255hp, powerglide and a 12 bolt rearend. Oh well I still like it.
 

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Well, this car has more problems than just not being a Z as advertised.
6 cylinder, but it should be a February build not a June.
I wouldn't say the car isn't any good, just make sure you go over it completely.
And post the trim tag; I'll make sure it matches the VIN.

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same thing happened to me bought a 69 Z/28 but now mine was more hard to see !!! it has an X77 code on the cowl tag but at closer inspection it had been glued on it !!! the cowl tag was the original one but somehow they took it off and stamped X77 on it from the back !! how did they do it ?? it look's good with it put on and painted it look's great ?? people are going to have to watch out for stuff like this .
 

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THEY CAN DO IT !!!! AND THEY DO !!!!
I have seen blocks and vin tags restamped that looked as good as new ! I saw a six cylinder camaro made in to a big block 396 375 clone and passed it off as original it sold in 98 for $17.500.00 !!!!!!!! beleive it , their are colectors right now that have $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ of dollars in fake cars it is sad but it is true .
 
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