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Hey guys I bought the electric hideaway light kit from the member mathias Klemp. My car has barely been driven but the kit has worked ok. Recently there has been some type of sound coming from one of them. I will get this fixed but I guess my question is how much better is the dse kit? It seems like they open more smoothly and controlled with dse than Matts kit even tho Matts kit is a great deal, can anyone with experience with both tell me if getting the dse is a waste of money if I have Matts kit or is it still worth the investment. guys please only constructive respectful replies, thanks guys!!
 

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I made my own setup a long time ago with help from Mat - mounted Toyota Celica motors to the underside of the inner fenders that operate the doors via a heim joint linkage system, controlled by the Firebird module. (Modified Klemp)

Definitely lacks the finesse of the DSE system, but it only set me back $75 or so, is very reliable and can serve double duty shelling coconuts. Your call.

Retro Electro is another option. http://retro-electro.net/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZvw3B4YhfI
 

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I think the kits and plans that are out there all have their pros and cons, some are bare bones and cost next to nothing but your time in a bone yard, others come to your door ready to go. IMHO for 68 & 69 the slower the door movement the closer to vacuum specs you get. The early DSE units racked back and forth so fast and damaged the finish and the doors after a short period of time. I saw a recent build maybe year and a half ago where the speed had been reduced and the slam at either point was minimal on these units. I have never seen a 69 with retro units. Would be nice to create a thread with Mat's, DSE and Retro Electric units side by side and note the installation time and aftercare and feeding.
 

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I made my own setup a long time ago with help from Mat - mounted Toyota Celica motors to the underside of the inner fenders that operate the doors via a heim joint linkage system, controlled by the Firebird module. (Modified Klemp)

Definitely lacks the finesse of the DSE system, but it only set me back $75 or so, is very reliable and can serve double duty shelling coconuts. Your call.

Retro Electro is another option. http://retro-electro.net/




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZvw3B4YhfI

I checked out retro electric and their kits were really nice. The kit I got from Matt has some issues, I am gonna trouble shoot it and if I am unable to fix it I will probably go dse kit just to put the issue to bed. I want smooth closing and opening system. The dse kit might be the best way to go to get what I want from the kits.


I think the kits and plans that are out there all have their pros and cons, some are bare bones and cost next to nothing but your time in a bone yard, others come to your door ready to go. IMHO for 68 & 69 the slower the door movement the closer to vacuum specs you get. The early DSE units racked back and forth so fast and damaged the finish and the doors after a short period of time. I saw a recent build maybe year and a half ago where the speed had been reduced and the slam at either point was minimal on these units. I have never seen a 69 with retro units. Would be nice to create a thread with Mat's, DSE and Retro Electric units side by side and note the installation time and aftercare and feeding.

Thats a great idea to compare all 3 however I am not good enough to set it up properly to benefit anyone, I can barely post pics consistently.
 

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I used to DSE Kit.

The main thing is to make sure the doors are perfectly aligned and open and close smoothly before you install the motors.
 
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