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Hey guys,
I've always been a enthusiast of the Old American Muscle cars, and just recently i wanted to buy the 2010 Camaro, but with the crazy laws we have here and the 10K to get it converted to right hand drive, i've decided and brought a 1967 Camaro from Cali, it has a restored/rebuilt(using Edelbrock Parts) 350 in it, it's still in transit but i decided to join up to the forums and have a chat to other enthusiast's.

Basically I'm going to bore it to 0.60 over and make it a 408, and after that i'm going to either Super Charger or Twin Turbo it. My goal is to have 1000rwhp that is street legal. I have done some research but still haven't really decided on which way to go, turbo or super.

Either way pleasure to meet you all, hopefully we'll be chatting soon.
 

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Hey from another ANZAC
60/1000 over on a high HP 350 block usually doesnt make for a long lasting engine...espec blowing it or turbo

Turbos dont kick in at lower rpms, blowers run right thru the range.

Think about this thu...you drive a 1st gen camaero, epec in Aussie or NZ, hell doent matter if it has a 4 in it, you dont have to prove anything to anyone...Its one of the great classic cars of the WORLD, and nice lines.
 

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Welcome Michael.
You will learn plenty form the helpful guys here.

Check out USMuscle.com.au for some like minded Aussies.
 

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G'day mate. Welcome to the TC site!

Sorry to hear about the need to rt hand convert the Cam...but after your other perform mods...you'll have quite the mean machine, eh?

As for your "crazy laws"..I see where you can be stopped on the road for a random car check to find out if the driver has been drinking (without reason!)... is this so? They are thinking about doing the same in Canada...but many think it would be an infringement on one's rights? The jury is out whether this will be allowed up here...I'm on the fence on this one right now, and can appreciate both sides of this issue. So, let me know if this is such down under.

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I see where you can be stopped on the road for a random car check to find out if the driver has been drinking (without reason!)... is this so? They are thinking about doing the same in Canada...but many think it would be an infringement on one's rights?
We have had that for yrs in NZ
W dont have a problem..hell we even have what is called the 'booze bus' they set up a road block, check drivers with a blow checker, if thats =ve then one has achoice of blowing in the big blow meter or a blood test.
Hell the get people with outstanding warrants, fines, stolen goods, drugs everything.

Infringement of rights? yeah right...they ar getting all those people who are infringing on my bloody right to be able to drive on the road and not get killed....
Infringing on my right to know my home is safe while Im out, by locking up those with stolen goods
Infringing on my right to be able to know they are locking up those who will be ramming drugs down my grand children throughts later on.

And I tell you what, getting pulled over on a blockade...and being clean...thats really cool feeling...the 'inconvirnce' is about 2 to 3 mins from time stopping in line and driving off.....hell I can live with that a couple times a yr knowing our roads and communty is going to be safer.
1 booze bus and blockade is able to check a few 1000 cars in 1 night....

Am I for it, damn right I am...and the crime /drink driving stats, and outstanding fines etc drop significantly.
 

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So..I take it Steps that you are slightly, just a bit in favour of this random check?:)

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We have had that for yrs in NZ
W dont have a problem..hell we even have what is called the 'booze bus' they set up a road block, check drivers with a blow checker, if thats =ve then one has achoice of blowing in the big blow meter or a blood test.
Hell the get people with outstanding warrants, fines, stolen goods, drugs everything.

Infringement of rights? yeah right...they ar getting all those people who are infringing on my bloody right to be able to drive on the road and not get killed....
Infringing on my right to know my home is safe while Im out, by locking up those with stolen goods
Infringing on my right to be able to know they are locking up those who will be ramming drugs down my grand children throughts later on.

And I tell you what, getting pulled over on a blockade...and being clean...thats really cool feeling...the 'inconvirnce' is about 2 to 3 mins from time stopping in line and driving off.....hell I can live with that a couple times a yr knowing our roads and communty is going to be safer.
1 booze bus and blockade is able to check a few 1000 cars in 1 night....

Am I for it, damn right I am...and the crime /drink driving stats, and outstanding fines etc drop significantly.

Im with steptoe on this one. There is no excuse for drink driving, for the majority of people out there who don't drink and drive it is not a problem. If you get busted for having stolen goods, unregistered plates etc... so be it., shouldnt have been breaking the law in the first place.

Being 21, I have a first hand view of the NZ Drinking Culture, it has never been a problem.

Its like people worrying about prison living conditions, if you follow laws, it will never be your problem.
 

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I.m with you guys^.
Driving is a privelage..not a right.
Been thru many a R.I.D.E. (reduce impaired driving everwhere) program in Canada and always was treated with respect and an apology to boot for my minor inconveniance.
I am a firm believer in removing drunks from behind the wheel..and if you are actually pulled to the side for drinking and driving and a further search results in warrants out for your arrest..OH WELL.No dodging a bullet tonight..your caught and you know why.
 

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They now also do random drug testing here in Oz. Take a small saliva sample and test on the stop, as fast as the booze bus checks.

I am all for these as well, sure can be annoying but drink driving just kills too many people.

That and speed and fatigue

My big bug bear is we can't drive heavily modified cars. 4 Links, big wheels, blowers all have so much scrutiny that even if you can get them engineered (and mostly you can't) then you get pulled over as a hoon and menace.

Yet many who have these modified cars are so careful it's not funny (i know there are always exceptions).
 

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They now also do random drug testing here in Oz. Take a small saliva sample and test on the stop, as fast as the booze bus checks.

I am all for these as well, sure can be annoying but drink driving just kills too many people.

That and speed and fatigue

My big bug bear is we can't drive heavily modified cars. 4 Links, big wheels, blowers all have so much scrutiny that even if you can get them engineered (and mostly you can't) then you get pulled over as a hoon and menace.

Yet many who have these modified cars are so careful it's not funny (i know there are always exceptions).

Whats the story with that? Are you not allowed to drive cars that are too far from stock? The street machine shows some bloody nice cars over your way. Does that mean they're not allowed to drive on the road?
 

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Stefan...good to see another bloody JAFA here m8

Aussie sucks when it comes to modfied vechiv=cles , thu it does vary from state to state.
The the question is what happens when u cross the state line?
Well the place is so bloody big, a modded car wouldnt get from one service station to another lol
 

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Whats the story with that? Are you not allowed to drive cars that are too far from stock? The street machine shows some bloody nice cars over your way. Does that mean they're not allowed to drive on the road?
As Steptoe has said varies state to state, but becoming a full on nanny state. Yeah you can have cars engineered but as a rule:
- No engine protrusion out the bonnet at all
- scoops can only be 16mm (yes 1.6 centimeters) above the normal bonnet height
- 4 links can be engineered and approved but you have to jump some serious hurdles
- rims can be no wider than 10" and even then have to run full floater hubs


I can go on but that is just the start.......
 

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As Steptoe has said varies state to state, but becoming a full on nanny state. Yeah you can have cars engineered but as a rule:
- No engine protrusion out the bonnet at all
- scoops can only be 16mm (yes 1.6 centimeters) above the normal bonnet height
- 4 links can be engineered and approved but you have to jump some serious hurdles
- rims can be no wider than 10" and even then have to run full floater hubs


I can go on but that is just the start.......
Thats just bloody ridiculous. Watching the highway patrol program that is sent from OZ, I knew the traffic laws were harsh, but didn't realise they were THAT bad. Don't worry, NZ is heading towards a nanny state also...
 

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We already have random police checks in Canada for impaired driving. In Ontario, it's called the RIDE Program, as mentioned earlier. I also find it's a minor inconvenience and don't have a problem with it.
But Frank, did you know that if there is no grounds for reasonable suspicion... the police cannot administer the breathalizer test. The stop checks are set up randomly, but the test is not a random event.... yet. That decision is yet to be made in Canada by the fed court.

I'm not against this random test for alcohol testing...but as some have asserted, is it yet another step towards a Nanny State? (had to look that one up, Down Unders) to appreciate the derogatory term to mean state protectionism/economic interventionism and regulatory policies becoming the norm. That's why I wrote..."I can appreciate both sides of this issue". The need for it and yet another law to control.

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NZ is no where as restrictive as Aussie...sure one has to get any changes from stck certified, even including seat runners
I was invoved with NZHRA back in the 80s when all this came in, and thru them ans MANZ they did a great job with the LTSA

Basically Im all for it...up to the 80s it was just open slather, drop a v8 in a morrie minor and use a bit of sting for engine mounts... people where dieing because of just down right stupdity
Hell we still set it occassionally with boy racers running around with 'lowered' no springs and drop a tubo in...Death machines and unfortunatly too frequently its not their death.

Up to the 80s Hot Rodders had a raw deal, tended to be lumped in with idoits....
Then thru the efforts of NZHRA and MANZ, a hell of a lot of Rodders where approved as certifiers...and everything changed.

Yep we can dump a blown big block onto the street, it just has to be certified brakes, chassis, body etc etc are safe, it can stop it will not fall apart...and lets face it, a $20,000 or $50,000 project, the $750 or so of cetification cost isnt really that much of overall cost.....If you can afford to build you can afford to cert.
 
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