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been lurking here for years and thought it was time to exit the shadows.

I'm currently working on a 67 plain jane Camaro, almost no options. Dad and I picked it up in 1986 with plans to Tub it and make a race car. Well life happened and we never finished. Its been sitting outside untouched for almost 30 years. I decided this was the year to start.

So far Ive removed the ladder bar setup and replaced it with a triangulated 4 link, Rebuilt body mounts to attached the body to the 2x3 frame we made years ago. Next step is to get floors back in it. I plan to use a stock floorpan and clearance it to fit around the frame. when done it will have 29x18 mickeys on the back, Looking for some pictures of these on a Camaro as well as trunk pictures with smaller wheel tubs. I'm hoping to put a back seat in it again. I think its going to workout but not sure yet

Thanks - Ken
 

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If I recall some people have used convertable back seats to fit with the tubs. Either way you can always cut the frame on the seat and shorten it that way.
 

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At the moment I'm a long way from interior. To be honest, their is more rust and repairs than actual Camaro at the moment. If it wasn't for the sentimental value I would sell it a buy another in better shape
 

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If you look into the build threads you should find a few minitub jobs.
 

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Welcome to TC Ken. The hardest part about putting nice new perfect floors and trunk pan back in it is knowing you are going to hack it up to fit the frame connectors, 4-link front mounts and the coil over upper mounts - ask me how I know lol.
 

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Watch it Greg. You will have Ken thinking that membership here is to be part of a 12 step program...
 

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Welcome to TC Ken. The hardest part about putting nice new perfect floors and trunk pan back in it is knowing you are going to hack it up to fit the frame connectors, 4-link front mounts and the coil over upper mounts - ask me how I know lol.
Due to the way we built the car 30 years ago, its going to take some magic to get the stock type floor back in, The rear frame is 2x3 box that runs from the front subframe all the way to the rear bumper. it is welded and boxed to the inside of the stock front frame rails. Body mounts are welded between the rockers and the 2x3 frame. taking the body off the frame is not possible without cutting mounts. with careful measurements from fixed points, I'm hoping to clearance the floor pan before putting it in from the top, this may require sectioning the floor to fit it in through either the door opening or windshield opening. I'm not quite there yet so Ill see how it plays out.

Looking at the whole picture, its overwhelming. the amount of work need is enormous. I brake it down into very small pieces so that I can accomplish small goals frequently rather than focusing on the "Finished Car" I focus on a single Weld or Fabricated piece. Keeps me moving without being discouraged.

Make no mistake, when it is complete. It will contain more new metal than old, The joke here is the only original part will be the vin tag.
 

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Have a cage?
currently has a 14 point cage, I have been slowly removing it as I brace and repair sections of the car. The plan is to replace it with a more street friendly 6 or 8 point. we didn't do the best job of installing it the first time around, I'm older, wiser (I think), and more patient now. hopefully this will equate to a cleaner setup
 

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You have a lot of work with the blessing that its so far off original that you have the ability to do what you have to do. Will your floor be "on" the chassis more than "in" the chassis? Please post some pics at some point so we can all offer you more advice than you can possibly need. Most of us who arent stock kinda move our cars from streeters towards racecars. You are coming the other way.
 

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You have a lot of work with the blessing that its so far off original that you have the ability to do what you have to do. Will your floor be "on" the chassis more than "in" the chassis? Please post some pics at some point so we can all offer you more advice than you can possibly need. Most of us who arent stock kinda move our cars from streeters towards racecars. You are coming the other way.
It will be "on" the chassis in the front, at or near the rear of the front seat brackets it be "in" the chassis. I still haven't figured our the rear seat area. Ill post some pictures in a day or two, I'm in the process of getting it out of the driveway an into a very small 1 car garage
 

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Watch it Greg. You will have Ken thinking that membership here is to be part of a 12 step program...
I thought that went hand in hand with the membership........or maybe that is therapy from talking and yelling at your car when things don't go right l:)
 

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Due to the way we built the car 30 years ago, its going to take some magic to get the stock type floor back in, The rear frame is 2x3 box that runs from the front subframe all the way to the rear bumper. it is welded and boxed to the inside of the stock front frame rails. Body mounts are welded between the rockers and the 2x3 frame. taking the body off the frame is not possible without cutting mounts. with careful measurements from fixed points, I'm hoping to clearance the floor pan before putting it in from the top, this may require sectioning the floor to fit it in through either the door opening or windshield opening. I'm not quite there yet so Ill see how it plays out.

Looking at the whole picture, its overwhelming. the amount of work need is enormous. I brake it down into very small pieces so that I can accomplish small goals frequently rather than focusing on the "Finished Car" I focus on a single Weld or Fabricated piece. Keeps me moving without being discouraged.

Make no mistake, when it is complete. It will contain more new metal than old, The joke here is the only original part will be the vin tag.
I put my floor in from the bottom. As that isn't an option for you, I'd send that sucker through the windshield opening - no way you'll get it through the door and have enough room to turn it. Definitely need to attack one thing at a time - foresight is good to have the parts there when you need them, but you kinda have to go one day at a time or you will get frustrated and lose your drive. Plus as you get further along - things will just make better sense.
 

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If you look into the build threads you should find a few minitub jobs.
I have scoured the Build section looking for inspiration but have not found what I'm looking for, Its not exactly a Mini-tub scenario. My frame rails are 30" outside to outside, I want to use smaller full size tubs of some sort, Playing with the idea of a stock outer wheel house attached to a fabricated inner to get the width I need. Just not sure if the stock outer will permit the 29" tall wheel.
I would love to see pictures of PROZ11's setup, possibly build pictures if any are available.
 

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I have scoured the Build section looking for inspiration but have not found what I'm looking for, Its not exactly a Mini-tub scenario. My frame rails are 30" outside to outside, I want to use smaller full size tubs of some sort, Playing with the idea of a stock outer wheel house attached to a fabricated inner to get the width I need. Just not sure if the stock outer will permit the 29" tall wheel.
I would love to see pictures of PROZ11's setup, possibly build pictures if any are available.
I have some build pictures I can post when I have some time. I don't think you're gonna be able to use the stock outer wheel house with a 29" tall tire unless the back of the car sits really high. I'm running 29" tall tires and full tubs but the stock outer wells have been cut out. My convertible top can still be lowered/stowed and latched down like stock though.

What are looking for pictures of?

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I have some build pictures I can post when I have some time. I don't think you're gonna be able to use the stock outer wheel house with a 29" tall tire unless the back of the car sits really high. I'm running 29" tall tires and full tubs but the stock outer wells have been cut out. My convertible top can still be lowered/stowed and latched down like stock though.

What are looking for pictures of?

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I'm looking for pictures of the trunk area, as well as interior rear seat area. what size tubs did you use?
 
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