I've heard the PS center link is a bit heavier than the manual. But it may just be a big block option, and the outer steering arms are shorter giving a faster ratio, which should work with a manual setup fine.
You will need a smaller spline pitman arm.
The older I get, the faster I was!
keep the power steering! this was an option back then. center link, drag link is the same thing. pitman arms are different thats $80 + -, power steering box is $220 + -, steering coupling joints $75 + -, hoses $50 + -, pump $110 + -, brackets $40 + -, pulleys etc. P.S. the center link is the same. hope this helps.
The main reason for changing to manual is cosmetics. I seen a '68 that had a manual box and it looked soo much cleaner. I have not had the chance to drive a manual steer camaro but I used to drive my uncle's '56 F-150 that is manual. I am at a point where I dont have the parts to support power steering, no pump, brackets, pulley, hoses, etc. I just figured that a manual box swap would look cleaner and be a cheaper way to go. I am still going to keep my power steering box just in case I change my mind later on down the road.
If you have a quick ratio power steering unit now and you change over to the standard box, you will be disappointed with the extra turn of the wheel. With a manual box, you might want to pad and put a leather steering wheel grip on, in order to give you a better grip and therefore leverage when trying to make tight turns.
I think I remember seeing an aftermarket fast-ratio worm gear for a manual box in the current PAW catalog. I don't remember the specifics... something like a 15:1 ratio instead of the stock 12:1 ratio. If you do decide to go manual, this may be worth looking into.
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Thank you Ken67, my thoughts exactly!! I am glad to hear that someone out there is thinking along the same lines as myself. I have a stock steering wheel and plan to keep that big boy for this reason. Thank you all for your input and information, the manual unit will be going in soon.
I have manual on my 69 . I've thought about going to power steering in the future but decided to put a rebuilt unit in instead. I got one from Year One for $199. As David said, you will need a different pitman arm. Having the shorter outer steering arms is a nice touch. I just found a set and am cleaning them up to give myself a bit quicker ratio. From my perspective, the Camaro is easier to steer than my 58 Impala was with manual steering!
Winch, I have a manual box heading my way and I still plan on keeping my power unit, sorry. I might change back to power steering in about 40 yrs when my arms are too tired from pushing the walker around!!!
The previous owner of my 69 Z28 put in PS but luckily saved the original manual box. I am going to put it back in as I rebuild the car. Does anyone know if the Z28 manual box is a better box than standard boxes? I had a '66 Chevelle SS with manual steering years ago and loved it. It puts you in touch with the car and road.
Just my $.02 but my preference on my "Toys" is manual steering. When you pop the hood on any of my 3 cars...no PS and I agree a cleaner look. Don't need PS, although I have to admit, there have been times when trying to back into a tight spot at a local cruise or car show I have thought to my self "my kingdom for power steering". You get used to it though and it feels more like a muscle car without PS in my opinion.
Thank you for the last few replies ... you guys make me feel all warm inside ... oh yeah it is cause I live in 110 degree weather! Nice to hear that most of us think alike. My wife will hate it, maybe she won't want to drive it now
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