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I have always loved '69 camaros, and for christmas my dad bought me one that he got a great deal on (only $1500!!). Judging from the ID i got off the firewall, it was originally a standard hugger orange '69 camaro, with a deluxe interior and nothing else special about it. It is from New Mexico and has a flawless body (currently in primer),a new 350 engine & 4 spd transmission, and new exhaust, but the interior is shredded. I'll need to pretty much replace everything in the interior except some of the dash components (gauges, ac vents). Anyways, I wanted to modify my camaro into an RS (and possibly an SS if I can), but I'm not sure of what components I need to get and what I need to change. I was wondering where I could find this info in detail or even better if I could just buy a kit to do it or something... any info is vastly appreciated!
 

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Congratulations on the new car. I am assuming, since it is a New Mex car that it is a Van Nuys build? Could you post the VIN and cowl info?

As far as the conversions....the RS included chrome wheel moldings, chrome drip moldings, chrome 1/4 louvers, different badging, hide-a-way headlights, and back up lights below the bumper. It will be a VERY costly conversion since just the hideaways will run you close to $1,000.

To make the car an SS clone, you will need to change the badging, get an SS hood (or cowl hood), an SS emblem on the steering wheel, 4 or 5-leaf rear springs, power steering (if the car doesn't have it already). That is all the obvious ones I can think of....


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Oh...and all SS's had Power front disk brakes in 1969....

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Don't forget about the 12 bolt rearend. All SS had a 12 bolt rear end unless it was ordered with a ratio that was only available in a 10 bolt like a 3.08. If a car was ordered with a 3.08 you got the 10 bolt, 3.08 was not available in the 12 bolt.
Somebody correct me if I am wrong.

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McCorry:

Power Steering WAS NOT a mandatory SS option.

My 69 SS has manual steering.



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My bad, Jonsey...you are correct...
Also, I know the 3.07 was available in the 12-bolt...not sure about the 3.08.

Also, I believe that some of the PG SS cars had 10-bolt rear ends....

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according to "1969 Chevrolet Camaro" published by chevrolet customer assastance center, the power teams list a 3.07 std for the ss 350 and the l35 (325 hp) 396, it was available as a econ option for the l334 (350 hp) 396 and a spec option for the l78 or 79 (375 hp). the only ss listed with a 3.08 is the ss 350 with a powerglide (m35). doubt if very many of these were made. the 12 bolt could be had with a 3.07, not sure about the 3:08. 12 bolt ratioes listed are the 2.73, 3.07, 3.31, 3.55, 3.73, 4.10

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Based on that data Mike, it appears that sixtsevnssrs is correct in saying that the 3.08 could only be had in a 10-bolt....

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Mike Brown:

For 69 SS350

3.07 ratio was standard for AUTO TRANS (Turbo 350)

3:31 ratio was standard for Manual Trans

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mike brown:
Jonesy, you're exactly right. i missed it when i was reading the chart
and my typeing skills aren't what they should be (sort of like an ugly girl on a sat. night - i'm a hunt and pecker)
(say it fast)
. anyway the 3:07 was with the 3 speed auto, 3:08 with the powerglide and 3:31 for the 3 and 4 speed manual, but it seems we are off the base subject. think rick's offers a kit for $1000 to just convert the headlights, not the tail lights and any other rs goodies. cheapest way is to do what some have done, buy an ss emblem kit for about a $150. this should be good for at least 100 extra hp. sounds like you got a good deal for the money and it just depends how much extra you want to spend to get it close to the same equipment as an ss.
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Hey guys, thanks for all the help. Me and my dad have been further researching my car, and we have found out some new info. It has power steering, 4 or 5 leaf rear springs,and it turns out the engine is in fact not a new 350 that was put in in '95 as I had thought but it is the original hi performance 327 and it was rebuilt in '95.
 

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If it is the original 327...then it definately isnt an original SS car...
Although it is strange that it has
multileaf springs....

clill....Kurt S has talked about a 350/PG/10-bolt setup for an SS that was produced in limited numbers...he could give you the details.

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If the car is a 69, and I'm not mistaken, the 327cid/275 Hp engine was not available, it could have been a 327cid/210Hp or a 307cid/200Hp, depending on the manufacture date. If the car was a L30/M20 it should have a 327 cid/275 HP, 4 spd, 12 bolt rear end and multi leaf rear springs, but this car was not built in 1969, only in 67-68.

Could you post the Vin and Cowl tag to check the car options. Also take a look at the CRG site at www.camaros.org

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I'm back from the holidays. :)

Steve, I too would be interested in the VIN, cowl tag, and engine info. Moris is correct, the only 327 in 69 was the base V8 up til December (the base engine then became the 307).

Clill, I agree with you on all SS's having a 12 bolt, except for the case listed above (69SS w/ powerglide). Bill Glowacki had one and other people have seen them. But the CRG still doesn't have one in our database (most people got the TH350 instead), so (like you) I'm still looking for the data from such a car.

An interesting aside - I have a copy of the POP for a LM1 w/ a powerglide and *it* has a 12 bolt. Go figure. A lower hp engine and it got the 12 bolt. I am confused... Clill, you might see this car; I believe it was sold in your area (or maybe a little west). 2 tone blue and white car.

To answer the original question: adding RS is not real easy and the fender adaptors are not available for 69. If you have the $ and time......

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Ok, the # i got off the dash is 124379N567851
and the stuff I got off the tag on the firewall reads:

Body By Fisher
ST69 12437 NOR210508BDY
TR 727 72 72PNT
12C X11

If any of you guys can tell me what this means, it would be really helpful. Thanks
 

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12437= V-8 Coupe, NOR= Norwood Ohio plant , 727= Std ivory interior, 72 72= Hugger orange (Top & bottom), 12C= 3rd wk Dec build, X11= Style trim Group <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SteveTheCamaroGuy:
Ok, the # i got off the dash is 124379N567851
and the stuff I got off the tag on the firewall reads:

Body By Fisher
ST69 12437 NOR210508BDY
TR 727 72 72PNT
12C X11

If any of you guys can tell me what this means, it would be really helpful. Thanks
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off the dash is 124379N567851
this is your vin. it means your camaro was the 67851st (or 50th?)'69 built at the norwood plant. your car and my car are both hugger orange 12 C (3rd week of dec' 68) cars. mine was made in la and they didn't have the x designation. my vin and trim tag:
vin - 124379L513726
trim tag -
6912437 L211259
711 72b
12c s199

the 711 is black std. interior
the 72b is hugger orange with black vinyl top
and i would guess black hockey stick stripes.


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[This message has been edited by mike brown (edited 01-01-2000).]
 

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Back to the topic, cloning an SS is easy. The previous owner of my car started the job. Mine is a '68 conv., with original 327-275 & PG. Previous owner added SS grill emblem, SS gascap, and SS wood steering wheel. The wheel is a beauty in great shape. I'll finish the job with an SS hood (expensive, but I love the look) and hockey stick stripe. Without crawling under, these are the only differences. Yas, I know all SS's were 350/396, w/12 bolt, but what the heck!
 
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