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Okay, so I'm new to Camaros and I've been doing a ton of research particularly on this site...
http://www.camaros.org/options.shtml

One thing I am trying to figure out is what size the wheels are on a 69 Camaro SS. I know there were a few different wheel options but here is a picture of my Camaro so you can see what kind of wheels it has...



From what I understand I believe that I have the Rally wheels, correct?

I've heard some cars had these in 14" and others had them in 15". My car is in the body shop getting some very small things done to it so I can't look at the wheels right now to see what size they are unfortunately (I just bought the car not very long ago).

Anyways, assuming I have the 14" wheels I think instead of going with aftermarket wheels I may just upgrade to the same wheels but in a 15" size since I actually like the look of these wheels (unless I have 15" ones already).

That leads me to my next question. Who makes a good reproduction of the factory 15" wheels? I don't mind reproductions as long as they're very good ones and very accurate. I would assume the factory 15" wheels would be 15x7 in the front and 15x8 in the rear but you tell me.

As you can tell I'm very new to the Camaro game so any input is appreciated! Thanks!
 

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Yes you do have rally wheels. They are either 14x7 or 15x8. I have heard that only the z/28s came factory with 15's. I haven't done the research to see if that is true though. The reproduction ones that i have gotten over the years were always really close to if not perfect. I assume that because these were on so many cars, they make quite a bit of them, so they are always pretty decent. Although if you do order them, keep your receipt, and check them for roundness. I ordered a set once that were soooo bent that they couldn't be balanced. I have bought several sets from different manufacturers, but it has been a while since i have bought any. I believe Heartbeat City sells them, along with the other major suppliers, Year One, NPD.
 

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Thanks for that info! I'll have to find out if mine are 14" or 15" when I get the car back. I'll start looking for some 15" ones just incase. I was going to go with an aftermarket wheel but to be honest the stock wheels have grown on me quite a bit.

Another thing I find odd. Look at the wheels in my car. The rear ones have much more lip / dish to them than the front ones. I've seen other camaros and they have the same size lip / dish on both front and rear wheels. Is this factory or what?
 

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Thanks for that info! I'll have to find out if mine are 14" or 15" when I get the car back. I'll start looking for some 15" ones just incase. I was going to go with an aftermarket wheel but to be honest the stock wheels have grown on me quite a bit.

Another thing I find odd. Look at the wheels in my car. The rear ones have much more lip / dish to them than the front ones. I've seen other camaros and they have the same size lip / dish on both front and rear wheels. Is this factory or what?
Looks like your fronts are 15x7 and rears are 15x8 4.5 BS which gives you a bit of a dish
this is not how it came from the factory but if you have decent power that's what you need.
 

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Chris - The factory Rally wheels with trim rings and caps have a classic look that never gets old for some reason. There are some very nice rims out there to choose from but my heart is always on the Rally's. 14x7 were the standard 15x7 for Z-28. All the places sell reproductions and some places sell the steel based originals so if you want to keep them but have all four match size you should be able to find what you need.
 

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Chris,

Here is another link to help explain what wheels Camaros originally came with. http://camaros.org/suspen.shtml#Wheels It's a very confusing subject, because First Gen Camaros now days have so many combinations, original sizes, different backspacing, and Rallys from other model cars. I spent days researching it. It looks like you have 15 X 7s on the front and 15 X 8s from a Corvette on the back. 14 X7 would have been standard for the 69 SS.

I have no experience with the aftermarket Rallys, I never owned any. I've heard a lot of issues with balance and they're not hub centric. Another option is used original Rallys. They are plentiful out there, but be careful what you're buying, there are a lot of trashed wheels out there repainted and misrepresented.

Good luck.
 

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First what's on your car, the deep dish in the rear is the result of a small back spacing which pushes the wheel away from the car. From your picture, your rears are probably 15x8 with somewhere around 3.75" - 4" backspacing. They might even be 15x10's to get that deep dish! If there is room for your fingers, feel the fender lip (don't cut yourself), I bet it's been trimmed or rolled to keep the tire from being damaged.

Your fronts on the other hand are probably 15x6 because they look extremely flat (lacking any dish). This gives a bit of a drag race look with big tall tires in the rear and narrow tires up front. This look can also be achieved with 14" wheels although 15's are the more common replacement on these cars. If nothing rubs and the car drives the way you want it to and you like the look go with it...

The '69 SS and most other '69 Camaros came from the factory with 14" wheels, the Z/28 got 15x7 with 4 1/4" backspacing (+6 offset) wheels. Before '69 the Z/28's got 15x6" wheels I believe.

Use the '69 Z28 wheel with it's +6 offset as the ideal for centering the wheel and tire in the wheel well. Check this link out for lots of fitment info and a chart showing you wheel size, back spacing and offset info. https://www.rsracing.com/tech-wheel.html
 

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Thanks for all the info guys. When I get the car back I'll check to see if the fenders are rolled. The car doesn't rub at all though so whatever the setup is it must have been done correctly.

So I assume that around this time you could get other cars with Rallye wheels as well? I only ask that because one of you mentioned I might have Corvette wheels I the back.

Assuming the wheels are 15x7 in the front and 15x8 in the rear is 1 extra inch plus some back spacing really enough to create all that extra dish in the back? From looking at the pictures not knowing anything at all it would look like I had 15x10s in the rear or something.

Now I am anxious to get the car back and see what I have on there. The guy who restored the car put these wheels on. He was a really legit guy though so whatever he did it couldn't have been anything bad.
 

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Yes Chris the Kelsey-Hayes Rally wheel was a Chevrolet "trademark" and was available on most Chevrolet sports cars from the mid 1960's to the mid 1970's. These models included Chevy II/Nova, Corvette, Camaro, and Chevelle including El Camino and station wagons.

I have also seen them grafted to other GM division products by owners who liked the look.
 

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Dug this up from the Chevelle site - can't vouch for its accuracy (nor spelling). When you get the car back, look for the codes near the valve stem(?) and possibly figure out what you have. My guess is that the rears are 15 x 8 Corvette.

XA 14X5 B-3 1/2 67 Chevy II with drum brakes
DA 14X5 B-3 7/8 67 Chevy II RALLY with disc brakes
DG 14X6 67 Camero & Chevelle with dics brakes
XB 14X6 B-4 3/8 67 Chevelle SS, 68-69 Chevelle with F-70 Tires, 70 Chevelle
XN 14X6 B-3 3/4 68-69 Camero & Nova with drum brakes. Different shaped outer
AE 14X6 B-4 3/8 70 Chevelle Station Wagon
XG 14X6 B-3 7/8 68-69 Camero with dics brakes, 68-70 Chevy II/ Nova with disc brakes, 69-69 El Camino without disc brakes. Wider drop center than normal
DE 14X6 B-4 3/8 71-72 Nova & Chevelle, 6 hole wheels
YW 14X6 B-4 3/8 Exactly like XB, may have come on same cars
YJ 14X7 B-4 3/8 69 Camero/ Chevy II L72- ZL1, 70 Nova
AV 14X7 70-72 Camero, 71-72 Nova, 6 hole wheel
XT 14X7 L72- ZL1 Non Rally Wheel
YA 14X7 B-4 3/8 69 Chevelle SS Wheel
AO 14X7 B-4 3/8 70 Camero &69 Chevelle SS Wheel
DB 15X5 67 Passenger Cars with disc brakes.
DF 15X6 B-4 1/16 67-68 Camero Z28
DC (BIG) 15X6 B-3 1/2 67 Corvette, No other stampings on rim
DC 15X6 B-3 1/2 68-70 Passenger car, 67 Passenger car (early models)
FI 15X6 B-3 1/2 68-70 Passenger car, 67 Passenger car (later models) Rivited instead of welded together
YS 15X6 B-3 1/2 68-70 El Camino
FW 15X7 B-4 1/4 71-up most any GM
AG 15X7 B-3 3/4 68 Corvette (will take 15x8 Beauty rings)
YH 15X7 B-4 1/4 L72- ZL1 Z28 Rally 69 narrow drop center
AD 15X7 B-4 1/4 L72- ZL1 Z28 Rally 68 wide drop center
AV 15X7 70, 71, 73 CAMARO Z28 5 spoke wheel
AZ 15X8 B-4 69-82 Corvette
 

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Look at the sizes listed... If you have 15x10 they are aftermarket or custom cut and widened. Chances are if you have aftermarket in the rear you have aftermarket in the front too... There are a couple combos you could pull off that list but it would be hard finding most of them in real GM wheels as these are all about 40 years old...
 

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I have heard that the FW code 15x7 wheels are fairly close to the YH Z28 wheels. What the difference is I don't really know. I bought a set of FW's from a guy that were used on a Monte Carlo and those worked well with no issues. Those are probably the most common I think.

What happened to American Racing 200's? Are you still going after those as well?
 

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I have heard that the FW code 15x7 wheels are fairly close to the YH Z28 wheels. What the difference is I don't really know. I bought a set of FW's from a guy that were used on a Monte Carlo and those worked well with no issues. Those are probably the most common I think.

What happened to American Racing 200's? Are you still going after those as well?
I may still get the 200S wheels and have two sets (the wheels already on the car and the 200S wheels). However, I've grown quite fond of these stock wheels (especially with the wider ones in the back (I love that stance) so I'm not sure. $1000 for wheels could be better spent in other areas of the car. The car is cherry inside and out, however, I'm itching to replace that 350 with something bigger with some more power.

The car has a very nice 700R4 transmission in it that was built to handle upwards of 600hp.

The motors I'm currently looking at are as follows...

http://www.unitedracingengines.com/servlet/the-4/557-HP-Chevy-Complete/Detail
http://www.unitedracingengines.com/servlet/the-14/603-HP-Chevy-406/Detail

I wonder if 500+ horsepower will be enough for me. I don't know what 500+ horsepower feels like in a muscle car. I'm coming from BMW M3s and what not so it's a different kind of power.

I just want something that will be fast as hell on the street since it's not a drag car or race car by any means.

I know everyone will tell me to drop in an LSx motor but I'm a sucker for the old school. I like the fact that it's carbureted with none of the nonsense sensors and electronics of modern day motors. Not that there's anything wrong with that by any means, but I like the simplicity of being able to work on the motor and not have to worry about sensors, ECUs, yadda, yadda, yadda.
 

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I have heard that the FW code 15x7 wheels are fairly close to the YH Z28 wheels. What the difference is I don't really know. I bought a set of FW's from a guy that were used on a Monte Carlo and those worked well with no issues. Those are probably the most common I think.
As far as I could tell the FW and YH measure up exactly and look identical. When I got my '69 it had 2 FW and 2 YH wheels with 235/60's on all 4 of them. My buddy had the exact same wheels I did and I swapped him so he could have the YH wheels on his Z/28. We both went over them with a fine tooth comb before making the trade. Ya, he got the better end of the deal but he did pay for the tire swap, mounting and balancing and my car didn't come with 15" wheels to begin with...
 
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