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Royce,

Who makes the sprint car tires. I want to see what they have for sizes compared to the 33 x 21.5 x 15 MT Sportsmans or 33 x 22 x 15 MT SR Radials or the 33 x 19.5 x 15 ET Streets. Those are the 3 sizes I have had on my car. I do not care for the SR Radials I have on it now if you saw my previous post on how they are acting.
McCreary is one maker I think they are now called American Racer http://www.americanraceronline.com/McCreary-Tires/ and here is a link directly to the sprint car tires http://www.americanraceronline.com/Dirt-track/dirt-sprints.html . If I remember right tread patterd D was the ones I saw running on the street, not that it matters take your pick.

Here is where I used to buy my McCreary street tires (Road Stars). Even though they did say "dirt" (tiny letters) on the side they were DOT approved. They do ship as well but, I'm sure you have a dealer closer to you. http://www.racetireswest.com/

Hoosier is another dirt track tire manufacturer.

Those SR radials are not made to handle cars with big HP. They are basically a street rod tire and are good for street cruising. They are just like the other "Pro Street" tires that are hard. What makes them attractive is the sizes and that the market they are shooting for. I do like the front tires though because they make sizes for skinny front rims.
 
Thank for the compliments guys. Actually I don't care for the color much, but thats the paint that was on it 13 years ago when I bought the car. It looks better in photos. Paint and body work I can't do, so I'm afraid its going to really cost me a bunch. It's at least presentable, so it will stay a little longer.
 
Discussion starter · #63 ·
Thank for the compliments guys. Actually I don't care for the color much, but thats the paint that was on it 13 years ago when I bought the car. It looks better in photos. Paint and body work I can't do, so I'm afraid its going to really cost me a bunch. It's at least presentable, so it will stay a little longer.
Well blue is my favorite color and that blue is not one you see all the time, that's why I like it. If the body is straight on your car which it seems to be, you shouldn't have to do any body work, just prep it for paint. These days you are still looking at $3500 to 5500 for a color change (the sky is the limit on price though). You're looking at about $900 to 1200 in materials. You can also save some money by stripping the trim, bumpers, glass etc... yourself. Not that you plan on having it painted anytime soon just thought I would throw this out there.
 
I have to say I was very happy when they made this Pro Street forum, but I don't type very well and thats why I don't get involved more often. I will try to contribute more in the future.
Lou
 
Being mostly a resto guy, don't have much to add. This is one we've been tinkering around with using up parts we've had laying around. 454/TH400, narrowed 12 bolt, fuel cell, mini-tubs, and E/Ts. Guess that somewhere in the ballpark, maybe? :eek: More Hot Rod than PS. Not completely done, but closer than you would think. Very bare-bones build. If it doesn't need it, it doesn't have it :D :


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M&H Racemaster is another plcae to look for those tires. I forgot all about McCreary and it seems they have changed their name to "American Race Tires".

Royce.. I have been waiting for you to take your 388 bown SBC down the track for how many years now? I was hoping you did it in your old camaro, but still looking forward to you doing it in the new ride. I figure some day this hot rod building is going to be a full time job for you and some day I will turn on the tv and you will have your own show like Chip Foose or Boyd Coddington.. or probably more like Jesse James :)

I have my own take on the subject of this thread. To each his own, but I can say I lose total respect when I see a car with wheelie bars, parachute, full tub, full race interior, blower restraints, open (obnoxious) headers, and then I look at the motor and see stock iron heads, small tube headers, a severley underdriven blower and other signs of a motor that was never built to go. I can only think POSER. Loose the wheelie bars and parachute and then I am OK with the same motor as it comes across as a "fun ride" rather than a poser.

I can totally understand also wanting to baby a top level restoration and not want to twist a nice classic body up. My plan was to build a motor that had just enough power to acheive potential high tens, while still being a docile cruiser, then add enough desired compromises to bring her down to my actual target.. as fast as the track will allow me to go withouht a roll bar and achieving that with an easy launch, full exhaust and very stiff street suspension that I drove to the track with. No drag shocks or split mono-leaf springs.. no removing the front sway bar, and no ride comfort compromising traction devices like Cal-tracs of SSM bars. I am not looking for wheelies and I don't want to twist up the body on my car. I am still trying to prove that I have achieved this, but have been having major traction problems. I hope to be back to the track within the next few weeks to try again after many mods to improve traction. Finding traction has been much harder than I thought.

If I wanted a race car, I would have built something very different, however it would kill me to have done all that work and spent all that money on a killer motor in a street car to not take a few trips down the track to get an idea of what it can do, even if they are easy launches. I dont mean racing it every other weekend, but at least once or twice give it a run at the track. I like the analogy of having the most beautiful girlfirend in the world.. super sexy, but never ever try to sleep with her. Just show off with her on your arm. Just wouldn't be normal to me.
 
George,
I'm not 100% positive but I think the 1/4 mile time would be 10.0 to high 9.9s. We are not fortunate to have a 1/4 mile track very close. Closest one that I am aware of is Hotlanta.Yeah I got to get some better tires on it, I almost put it into a pole the day after my friend and I got it back on the road. I wasn't acquainted with the added horsepower. I kept it under control(barely) and didn't damage anything(except my boxer shorts!!!) I learned a very valuable lesson.
David..my handy dandy little calculator has your Camaro ripping off 9.577 et.s.1/8th mile et x 1.57.:cool::hurray:
 
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Royce.. I have been waiting for you to take your 388 bown SBC down the track for how many years now? I was hoping you did it in your old camaro, but still looking forward to you doing it in the new ride. I figure some day this hot rod building is going to be a full time job for you and some day I will turn on the tv and you will have your own show like Chip Foose or Boyd Coddington.. or probably more like Jesse James
I have been working on this car on and off for several years (almost 4). I got side tracked building a Harley but, I am 100% commited again to my Buick and it is coming along very well. I didn't even bother taking the Camaro to the track after building the blown engine. As you can see traction can be an issue, I knew it wouldn't hook anymore with the added power so, no need in going to the track. No TV shows for me, this is strictly a hobby for me. I wish I had the talent those guys have. I'm just a hack trying to figure this stuff out. I promise this car will make a pass before the end of next year. If things keep moving along I should be ready to make a few passes by spring.
 
david..my Handy Dandy Little Calculator Has Your Camaro Ripping Off 9.577 Et.s.1/8th Mile Et X 1.57.:cool::hurray:

.......makes me want to find a 1/4 mile track now!!!!!
 
Are you guys already signed up for Vegas? What would be the cut off date if you aren't able to get the track time in that you need? I mean if you don't have it dialed by the middle of Oct. that would be cutting things way close. That wouldn't give you any time to repair anything if need (hopefully hat won't be needed) or make any major changes if you feel it's needed. Right now you have a couple months but, of course you need time to dial it in and the weather is probably going to start getting worse soon. Just curious how the time line looks for you guys.
Hey Royce, wanted to give you a little update, I just got back from vacation and I've been swamped at work (just wrapping up my recent job/project) so I have been off the board awhile.
We tested the weekend before last with the Vette and finally got some good data to get it dialed in on, even on a VERY marginal track (it's a small town track, old airstrip with no guardrails :eek:.....) we went a couple of 7.60's in the low 180's on one system blacktracking the 1/4, tried the 2nd system to see if we could stick.....we couldn't.
Got some good video finally too that told us a few things about the launch, we are in the 1.10 to low 1. teens in the 60', about a .1 off what it should be and we have a pretty good idea why now, wheelie bar height.
Even though we are not anywhere near where we should be we felt real good, we are definitely closing in on it now. In fact I just got off the phone with my buddy and we got to talking about where we are, we have exactly 11 passes on the car since the complete re do, I guess that might have something to do with not having it nailed down yet. We are catching it though.
I feel like on a track like Vegas right now we would stick 2 systems, it will go LOW 7's on one we think, so it's right there in the class on two and we have a third for backup. We are pretty pumped all in all, and are going to try to hit Canada 1 more time this weekend, it gets well prepped (sometimes) so we should see where we are at.
Oh, by the way, the testing was done on 10.5W's........ Yep we switched horses mid stream. The old tires where dead and needed to be replaced and after talking about it we decided though the car has a shot at being (eventually) competetive in pro street we just had no where near enough time tuning it yet and the season is ending, the leaves are falling here in the Pacific Northwest. So we are going to run Outlaw 10.5 again. If we get the car going close to right even at weight we should be competitive, at least we hope, and it does seem to work so far with the 10.5's, they are a pretty amazing tire.
So in short (yeah right :D ), it looks pretty good for us going to Vegas even though we are cutting it close, I'll keep you posted!
 
Discussion starter · #77 ·
Good deal Sean! I have been watching the weather up your way and it looked pretty good so, I figured you guys would get out.

I'm locked in for Vegas so, just keep me posted. Good luck with the car.
 
Good deal Sean! I have been watching the weather up your way and it looked pretty good so, I figured you guys would get out.

I'm locked in for Vegas so, just keep me posted. Good luck with the car.
Thanks we need the luck! We had some real nice weather the last two weeks, we would like one more weekend though. I think we are about 85% sure we are going, as long as the car shows us some hope on the marginal tracks we have now (cooold) we will be going. You could hook a bicycle tire on a camper van with a 1000 horse tuneup in Vegas I think.
I'll keep you posted!
 
I have a friend with a quarter million dollar, Carbon fiber bodied, 2200HP blown / alcohol injected Pro Street car that does not race it either. he rides it up and down the strip, into Steak and Shake, some car shows, That is his thing. To each his own.

It is a badd *** ride and absolutly beutiful.

Being the buddy I am I had to jab him a bit. I told him he has Plamate of the Month on his arm. He can strut her around and show her off, but he cannot sleep with her, LOL!

I have another buddy, same thing. 756HP All Aluminum 572CI we put in his Chevelle. He was mortified to find out that we raced Project EmptyNest off the trailer with less then one mile on it! Could not believe we drove it, let alone raced it! i pulled into the resturant the other day in it, he was standing shaking his head like I was doing something wrong driving it!

Again, that is his thing and I have made some money building what he likes. Trophy winning show cars.

Me, I am badd. The more beutiful and built for speed she is, the more I have to pound on it hard as I can.

That's my thing.
Love Frank's (quote)
Treat her like a farm animal and drive it like you stole it.
 
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