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heyatomicdave

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How are the the chrome moldings attached to the doors? The one on my passenger door sits about a half an inch too high and I want to take it off and move it, but I can't figure out how it is stuck on other that it appears that there is some adhesive.

thanks,
dave
 
The molding is held on by clips. Each clip has a stud that goes through a 3/8" hole in the door. You can access the retainer nut by removing the inter-door panel. there is 6 clips on each door molding, four are inside the door and two are at the ends and can be accest from just opening the door. There is no adhesive on any molding on a stock 67 Camaro.
The moldings at the front and back of the door are just held on be screws and could by moved a lot easyer then the door molding. Check out the link below to see the clip for the molding.

Roger

http://www.rickscamaros.com/product.asp?pf_id=LB-3&dept_id=3283
 
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Well it turns out that someone in the past lost some of the clips and had the brilliant idea to glue it on. It took a while but I got it off. I'm hoping I can fix the paint where the top edge was. It looks like the glue may have screwed it up a bit.:sad:
 
I am getting ready to install the six piece rocker moldings. I have been trying to do some research as to how to do it properly. The way I see it there are three moldings per side and the the one that goes on the fender are just screwed in as well as the one that goes on the quarter. The door moldings have six clips and I have the template but before I drill I want to be real real sure that I don't mess it up. the installation instructions that come with the clip hardware are very very brief and not very helpful. Any one have any pointers as to how to do this correctly. The way I see it, I have one shot to get this right and after looking at the directions it seems to me that the door molding would slide forward and aft. At least that is what I gather by looking at the template for the location for drilling the holes....

any help is appreciated
brandan-
 
There should be a clip on each outer end of the door molding that accepts a screw. This keeps it from sliding back and forth. The screws on each end go through the outer skin where it folds over the shell.

I didn't get any instructions with mine, but it doesn't sound like I missed much. These moldings are in the RS section of the A.I.M. as well.

Good luck, Brian
 
The clips attach to the R/S molding, so you should not see a picture with them attached to just the door. If someone wants pointers on drilling/locating the holes, I would be happy to help with that. But, here are some pointers that will save you a lot of time if I already assume you have the holes correct.

If you car came from the body shop and you have replaced quarters and/or fenders, install the molding on the door first, but install the ROCKER (long skinney molding) before you do any of the R/S Moldings. It will give you a straight frame of reference. Once you have the long rocker molding installed, do the door next. The large (R/S) moldings get in the way most of the time if you put the R/S moldings on first. I wrote a thread on how to install the Rocker Moldings, if you are replacing them new (or old).http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=141747&highlight=rocker

Large (R/S) Molding:
Here is the trick that will save you a lot of time, especially if you use new clips like Ricks carries or Classic Industries. Flatten these clips a little first. Flatten them at the bend where my two fingers are. You will see that this will give them MORE pressure against the door when you tighten them down. Aftermarket nuts for the clips suck. If you have the original ones use them. If not, the new ones will work but they are different (a little small) and not as good. Put a little ball of strip caulk or dumb/dumb puddy at the base of the stud so that as you tighten them on, the puddy fills the holes. You want this to seal the water that may try to run through these holes. Don't tighten yet, just leave snug. Visually make sure it is ok, then tighten down. If you don't have the original outer screws for the R/S DOOR moldings, the correct screws for the wheel (stainless) moldings are a pretty good match to the original. Also, remember that these outer screws had an original plastic washer with them. You can get those at your local hardware store if yours are missing.

The original clips on the R/S Molding Clips had plastic on them. It was used as a spacer and a clip lock. I used carpet tape as the spacer to fill up some of the gap on the inside. Sorry, I did not take a picture of that for you.
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Also, remember that even the ORIGINAL R/S moldings did not line up with the door moldings the way we would expect them today. So visually move the quarter and fender moldings till you get them in a good visual location. You will want to say that the aftermarket ones suck if you bought them, but if you had NOS or your original ones, you would say they suck also if you were installing them from scratch.
 
Dale, first of all thanks for the insight and photo, very helpful. The clips are aftermarket and so is the molding kit:(. The clips that go on the door seems to be a little small, maybe if I bend them like you said they will adhere better to the body. It is worth a try.

The door skin was replaced so I am starting from scratch. I have the template and not no worried about drilling location really. If the template is off I can always redrill and seal the wrong hole with some filler. The molding should cover up my mistake:D.

The end clips that go on the door molding that do not have the stud attached use the screw to go to the door. I guess I am trying to figure out how to actually attach the molding to the clips. It looks like all the clips will slide in the two slots on the inside of the molding and I can line it up from there. Maybe I am making this more difficult to do than it really is. Are the end clips that are smaller than the rest of the clips installed first? are they screwed into the door from the inside of the door skin?

Thanks, when I get this figured out I will post some pics here....

Brandan-
 
You have to bend them, it is NOT an option. If you don't you will be reinstalling them.
Yes, it is hard to mess them up if you are careful.
If you would have posted the pictures, I could tell you where they go!

Your question reminds me that I said something wrong above. The ENDS of the molding on the doors have a head that looks like the wheel moldings, but they are not the wheel molding sheet metal screws. You can use that on the MOST forward screw on the quarter molding piece, but not on the door. Sorry for making that mistake. I don't have my car right now to look at, or I would have caught that. Maybe someone else can post a picture of the door end bolt/screw till I get my car. If I had it, I would take a picture to include the washer for you also.

They are little bolts that are screwed into the molding from INSIDE the car.
 
Scott
The two end screws are not attached to the molding from inside the door. These screws are visable when you open the door. These screws go through the inter door shall and the door skin into the molding. If you just replaced the door skin the holes for these end screws should still be in the inter door shall. That not saying the old holes in the inter door shall are in the right place but that gives you a idea were they should be.

Roger
 
Scott
The two end screws are not attached to the molding from inside the door. These screws are visable when you open the door. These screws go through the inter door shall and the door skin into the molding. If you just replaced the door skin the holes for these end screws should still be in the inter door shall. That not saying the old holes in the inter door shall are in the right place but that gives you a idea were they should be.

Roger
I am aware of this. Brandon has the assy. problems. I did not specify or use the correct and full description when explaining. I apologize for any confusion. Using the phrase "inside the door" could confuse those not aware of RS Molding Installation. Basically the installation is straightforward and self explanatory. Mine went on like clockwork. You'll get it Brandon; piece of cake.
 
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