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Well after watching Barrett Jackson auctions recently and seeing all the Camaros with Cowl Induction hoods (ZL2) and having the air cleaner to hood seal on upside down, it prompted me to write up a little instructions page. :D Mike Joy did a fine job of giving on-air props to Team Camaro, I can only hope the new owners will see this and correct their seals!

Here we have you basic pic of a repro cowl air cleaner that someone has the seal on upside down (and inside out!). If your seal looks like this… In the words of Tommy Lee Jones “Go home and do it again!” ;)

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This next pic is how the seal comes to us from the Parts Warehouse (inside out) and this is where people get confused.

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The first thing you need to do is un-stick the mounting lip. For some reason, the seals are manufactured so it looks like the seal doesn’t have the mounting lip, but it does! Find the cloth join and then run you fingers around the seal gently separating the lip from the main seal. You don’t want any tearing!

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Next take seal and twist it 180 degrees so that the mounting lip you just separated will be on the bottom and hook over the lip of the seal ring. It helps if you turn the seal and ring over so you are looking at the bottoms of both pieces. Locate the cloth seal joint of the seal and center it in the rear of the seal ring (over distributor) and start working the seal lip over the ring lip.

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Keep working the seal lip over the ring lip and around the ring. Make sure what you just put on does not slip off. The seal is a little springy and wants to return to the upside down twist.

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After you have mated the seal lip to the ring lip, turn it over and you are done! It should look like this…

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Congratulations!!! You have corrected one of the 7 cardinal sins of the 1st gen Camaros. Now when you install your correctly done air cleaner on your engine, reach down and remove that “CAUTION-FAN” sticker by F*RD! 🍻
 

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This is 1 thing that has bugged me for many years, I go to Barret every year and it is amazing how many are installed incorrectly. Nice Post Kevin.
BTW the originals are also held on with a little weatherstrip adhesive on the top side of the ring. I have changed some before and when I did glue them I simlpy turned the ring over and put it on the ground and put a piece of plywood on the bottom and some weight until the glue stuck> It also helps if you do this before glueing as it heps to conform the rubber and eliminate wrinkles. I changed the original 1 on my own Z28 a few years back with a NOS GM part, and I did not glue it as it looked great after having weight on it overnite, besides the glue was a B***H to get off. JMO.
 
I just purchased a nos seal to relace my torn one and it does not have tape at joint.
Was original taped ? If so what kind of tape should I use?


Thanks,

Bob
 
I guess any black cloth tape will do the job.
I'll check at home depot or hardware store maybe they will have it


Thanks for the info Kevin


Bob
 
Here a peek at the cloth tape. I did this about 1971. Of course back then it was called NNS. (new-new stock)
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Did I do good Kevin?:confused:
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Charley, I found that my pics matter on the monitor that is being used. I can see then fine on my LCD, but older monitors wash some of the details out. I can try to get a closeup, but then I would have to undo it all again :D
 
I have a later NOS seal on my car, and it tapers in all the way around. I thought it was maybe on wrong, but I can't see any way it could be flipped and still have the lip for the ring facing inward.
Mine definitely does not roll outward as in Fred's pic.

The seam on mine was glued. I was going to find some tape for it, but was unsure what to use. Were the originals shiny like the one in Kevin's pic? How wide should it be?
 
Thanks to Kevin for his post. Seeing all the 'restored Camaro's with cowl seal upside down has bothered me greatly as well, since I've been here on TC... I was at Stoudt's Auto Sales in Reading, PA this weekend (buying a Corvette) and saw that their $60K restored Z28 also has the seal on upside down....

I was going to put in a post about all that when I got home today.. .but Kevin beat me to it. *S*

Fred: in your photo above, your air filter protrudes higher than your seal... Aren't you missing the extension ring?.. or ??
 
Thanks to Kevin for his post. Seeing all the 'restored Camaro's with cowl seal upside down has bothered me greatly as well, since I've been here on TC... I was at Stoudt's Auto Sales in Reading, PA this weekend (buying a Corvette) and saw that their $60K restored Z28 also has the seal on upside down....

I was going to put in a post about all that when I got home today.. .but Kevin beat me to it. *S*

Fred: in your photo above, your air filter protrudes higher than your seal... Aren't you missing the extension ring?.. or ??
He he he :D Good eye. Thats a 4" tall K&N. It's much taller than stock and can only fit INSIDE a cowl hood. Plus it was only $39.95 at Summit.
And no extensions involved with a BBC.:noway:
 
OK....so tell me.....is this wrong? If it's wrong, is it upside-down or inside-out?

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As you can tell, I'm not so worried about originality, but I do want the part on the car the right way.
 
Dan,
Yours looks correctly installed to me (is it new?).. If you will ease down your hood, and be careful to make sure the upper lip of the seal 'splays' OUTWARDS all around the edge, and then leave the hood down for a few days, the seal should begin to taper outward, and hold that set...
 
Cool. It's a repop piece I bought from someone here.

When I put it on, I put small pieces of painters tape all around the edges and closed the hood to make sure it was sealing all around. All the pieces stuck to the hood and when you close the hood, you can see it rolling to the outside just a bit.

Glad that's one sin I didn't commit with my car. :)
 
Dan,
Yours looks correctly installed to me (is it new?).. If you will ease down your hood, and be careful to make sure the upper lip of the seal 'splays' OUTWARDS all around the edge, and then leave the hood down for a few days, the seal should begin to taper outward, and hold that set...
I have put the ring with the seal installed correctly, up side down on the ground and then put a small piece of plywood on the backside of the ring and then added some weight ( bricks etc., or - I used 4 or 5 calipers in boxes) adjusting the rubber so it splays outward as if in position on the hood. I actually prefer this method because you can see the rubber and adjust it accordingly if it is folded or out of place, before it relaxes and takes a more permanent set?. I leave it a few days and then it is usually perfect on the car. I dont actually glue the ones I have installed, as it makes it too hard to readjust if necessary, but this is owners preference.
This works great on the repop seals as they seem a little less flexible and are harder than originals.
 
That's a good idea... I have a spare original cowl a/c which has been in my garage for 30+ yrs.. and I noticed recently the seal has taken a bad shape.. Maybe I can 'rejuvenate' that rubber seal and use your technique to get it back to the correct shape. . without being on a car... :)
 
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