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What is a "spreadbore" intake manifold? :clonk:
Is that the type with no dividers in the intake area? :eek:
Spreadbore means that the primary and secondary bores are different in size. A spreadbore carb carb has small primaries(1 1/4") to give you great throttle response and great mileage and the large secondaries(2 1/2") deliver AWESOME power. A squarebore carb has all 4 bores the same size.
 
I wouldn't put anything but a Q-Jet on your car, nothing and I really mean nothing, will work as good as a Q-jet. You can buy one out of a junk yard for $25.00. Try to find one with a chevy fuel connection, chevy fuel lines come out the side. The others are B.O.P. they come out the front and they will work but you can not use the stock fuel line. Any non electronic Q-Jet will work(no electrical connections at the front top), don't worry if it's a 750 or a 800 just get one with a solid feel on the throttle shaft check it at about 1/4 throttle, and make sure it just looks good in general. Sometimes people over tighten the front mount bolts and smash the main housing (the center section) these will work, but leak. If the car has been ran in the last several years you can most likely just dump the old gas out, and spray it good with carb cleaner. Then put it on the car and check it out, it will most likely work OK. You may then have a few problems like vacuum dash pots or gas drip when you shut it off. This way the carb you get started out with has all the right parts that are supposed to be together, and it's very fixable. In the worst case you rebuild it $40.00 - $50.00 for parts and if you take your time 2 Hours to take it apart, clean it, and put back together. If you rebuild it don't for get to epoxy the lead plugs in the bottom. It should be in the instructions of the rebuiln kit.


Jack
 
I posted a thread earlier about the best carb for my 69 350, 4sp. and got a lot of responses that a quadrajet can be tuned to be almost as good as EFI. (ie. power AND economy)
How difficult is it to tune one to that degree of excellence?
Are they vacuum secondary carbs? double pumpers?
Can you buy them new?
Thanks,
John
If it were me I'd call Sean Murphy at SMI and have him do his "Magic" to a Q-Jet. He does wonders with Q-Jets. He will total go through the carb and "tune it" specifically to your car / setup.

I had Sean do Stage 1 mods on a Q-jet for my daily driver 84 C20 Suburban. No problems at all. Drives great! Other than pumping it a couple of times when you first start it, you'd sware it was fuel injection. Give him a call, his price is very reasonable.

http://www.smicarburetor.com/
 
If it were me I'd call Sean Murphy at SMI and have him do his "Magic" to a Q-Jet. He does wonders with Q-Jets. He will total go through the carb and "tune it" specifically to your car / setup.

I had Sean do Stage 1 mods on a Q-jet for my daily driver 84 C20 Suburban. No problems at all. Drives great! Other than pumping it a couple of times when you first start it, you'd sware it was fuel injection. Give him a call, his price is very reasonable.

http://www.smicarburetor.com/

I disagree with this statement. I had a SMI Q-Jet and it was a total disaster. Off the top of my head it had at least 8 things wrong with it. I had to send it back for a refund. There is no way a volume producer can build a "custom" carb. There are too many variables. Places like SMI and Jet use a generic setting to build your carb. IMO, the ONLY place to go is Cliff Ruggles. He is the only guy I would even consider to build my Q-Jet. I am not trying to bash SMI or Jet, but I think all the possible scenarios need to be expressed. More than likely you will have to return your Q-Jet like I did. There are other guys on here that have had the same luck with them.
 
I wouldn't put anything but a Q-Jet on your car, nothing and I really mean nothing, will work as good as a Q-jet. You can buy one out of a junk yard for $25.00. Try to find one with a chevy fuel connection, chevy fuel lines come out the side. The others are B.O.P. they come out the front and they will work but you can not use the stock fuel line. Any non electronic Q-Jet will work(no electrical connections at the front top), don't worry if it's a 750 or a 800 just get one with a solid feel on the throttle shaft check it at about 1/4 throttle, and make sure it just looks good in general. Sometimes people over tighten the front mount bolts and smash the main housing (the center section) these will work, but leak. If the car has been ran in the last several years you can most likely just dump the old gas out, and spray it good with carb cleaner. Then put it on the car and check it out, it will most likely work OK. You may then have a few problems like vacuum dash pots or gas drip when you shut it off. This way the carb you get started out with has all the right parts that are supposed to be together, and it's very fixable. In the worst case you rebuild it $40.00 - $50.00 for parts and if you take your time 2 Hours to take it apart, clean it, and put back together. If you rebuild it don't for get to epoxy the lead plugs in the bottom. It should be in the instructions of the rebuiln kit. The conclusion is simple: Q-Jet alltheway.


Jack

I completely agree with this statement. For a street car, there is no better carb period than a Q-Jet. If you take the time to familiarize yourself with their inner workings, they are a breeze to work on. I can make a jet and rod change in under 4 minutes. Far less time than a Holley and the same time it takes for an Edelbrock. Plus, the Q-Jet allows for part throttle fine tuning(75-later models). The Holley can't do this. The Edelbrock can, but not as fine tuned as the Q-Jet. The Holley and Edelbrock are both squarebore carbs. Well, most of the Holley's are. The squarebore is the best of both worlds. Small primaries for outstanding throttle response and mileage along with HUGE secondaries for AWESOME power.
 
I disagree with this statement. I had a SMI Q-Jet and it was a total disaster. Off the top of my head it had at least 8 things wrong with it. I had to send it back for a refund. There is no way a volume producer can build a "custom" carb. There are too many variables. Places like SMI and Jet use a generic setting to build your carb. IMO, the ONLY place to go is Cliff Ruggles. He is the only guy I would even consider to build my Q-Jet. I am not trying to bash SMI or Jet, but I think all the possible scenarios need to be expressed. More than likely you will have to return your Q-Jet like I did. There are other guys on here that have had the same luck with them.
Charlie,

Sorry you had such a bad experience with SMI. My carb has worked flawless for 5 years. Mileage & power are both better than the oem carb. Last week here in Indy it got down to around -15 F and with my Suburban sitting outside, 3 pumps and it fired right off. My brother was running one on a small block 383 ran the same, flawless. I know multiple others that have had Sean rebuild/modify a Q-Jet and has worked fine. Sean's is a good guy, I'm sure he would have made it right.
 
Charlie,

Sorry you had such a bad experience with SMI. My carb has worked flawless for 5 years. Mileage & power are both better than the oem carb. Last week here in Indy it got down to around -15 F and with my Suburban sitting outside, 3 pumps and it fired right off. My brother was running one on a small block 383 ran the same, flawless. I know multiple others that have had Sean rebuild/modify a Q-Jet and has worked fine. Sean's is a good guy, I'm sure he would have made it right.

His way of making it right was to refund my money. I didn't want that. I wanted him to suggest that I return it and he fix it, but he didn't. He kept saying there was something wrong with the engine, but whenever I bolted on my other carb, the engine ran fine. Even after I sent it back for a refund, he said he installed it on his car and it ran fine. I know that can't be. I even bolted on a different Q-Jet and it ran great. So 2 different carbs(Q-Jet and Edelbrock)run fine, but bolt his on and runs poorly, but something is wrong with my engine. Sorry. I am not bashing SMI or JET. I just want a fellow TC member to have all the possible outcomes that he can encounter. There is a strong possibility if he gets a SMI carb, that it will not run right and he will be highly disappointed.
 
There was an old guy in Laramie, Wyoming that liked the Quadrajets even more than Charlie (67CamaroRS/SS) and would rebuild them for anybody fairly cheap. His only stipulation was that HE bolted it on and adjusted it! He did a ton of them and I never heard a single complaint from anyone.
 
The Holley is a good carb, I'm sure, but not for the street. There is no better design than the spreadbore. There are more than just one that can tune a Q-Jet. Myself, Cliff Ruggles, Mat Klemp, the guy deerhunter suggested. You have to avoid the volume producers. There is no way you can produce one carb for EVERY combination on the road. Yes they say they need your engine and cam specs, but how can they build a "custom" carb in a week if they have hundreds of orders before yours? It can't be done. That's why Cliff is 6 months behind, at least. The hardest part of a Q-Jet is figuring out the appropriate settings, not the actual labor. Once you know what to make each setting, 90% of the work is finished. Like I said, my Q-Jet is tuned so well it runs like FI. Just like it was intended when the engineers 1st designed it. I can pump my carb once on a 20* morning and she fires right up. In fact, if the carb is tuned properly to your engine, you don't even need a choke. I can start my car without setting the choke. I set it for insurance.
 
If Q-jets are so AWESOME, why is there only ONE guy in this entire country of 300 million people who can get one to run correctly? Get a Holley.
Mine runs great. I think there's probably a few more than one guy...

Mark
 
I think a lot of problems with the Quadrajet were faulty floats and probably the biggest thing was overtightening the screws and warping it. One other thing that got overlooked were the plugs in the bottom. They would corrode and leak. They really weren't all that hard to rebuild and get to run okay, I think they were easier than the Edlebrock even though it has been a very long time since I had to rebuild one. They were used on a lot of cars 'way back when'.
 
ok i have a 68 firebird with a from what i can tell factory 455 and headers. my quadrajet runs and idles like a champ (with 12mpg in town) but when i hit the loud peddle it stumbles pretty bad then goes like a bat outa hell. how or what do i adjust to get rid of the stumble? it only happens when the secondarys open
 
but when i hit the loud peddle it stumbles pretty bad then goes like a bat outa hell. how or what do i adjust to get rid of the stumble? it only happens when the secondarys open
Sounds like the secondary air valve spring is too loose allowing the air valve to flop open as soon as you stick your foot in it, causing a bog.

http://www.corvetteclub.org.uk/files/downloads/how_to_tune_a_qjet.pdf

Scroll down to 'procedure' and look at #4. It tells you how to tighten up the spring on the air valve. Tighten it up by 1/8 of a turn at a time till the bog goes away.

This has pictures of the adjustments about halfway down the page:

http://www.73-87.com/7387garage/drivetrain/myqjet.htm

Mark
 
If Q-jets are so AWESOME, why is there only ONE guy in this entire country of 300 million people who can get one to run correctly? Get a Holley.
Who said there is only one guy? There are quite a few guys that know what they are doing with quadrajets.....
 
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