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No one is suggesting you're padding your ego.

We think its miracle one can make an 11.50 pass on a 6 inch tire. Believe me, its not easy. Otherwise, others would be doing the same thing.

One's equipment must have the same appearance as stock, I like that statement.

Now, part of the secret is out. This means I can have a paper mache interior, very light weight....

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Everett "OBJECTS IN THE MIRROR APPEAR QUICKLY UPON RAPID DECELERATION"
 
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Everett#2390:
I read the rule also

Must SOUND stock, we know how they sound(?)

Now tell me, what's the reference? Somebody who's recorded the sound and listening ears compare the sound? Who's ears?

But still, it reads like almost Super Stock rules, except one must have everything working and complete interior, or one must show everything works.....

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We do not want this to turn into a bracket race with cars that have all the inteior gutted out,as far as the cam it needs to be as close to the factory sound, as it can be and we all now what these car sounded like from the factory but you do not have to run a factory cam.we do not say much about the cam as long as it is not too bad at idle..

TERRY
 
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Everett#2390:


Now, part of the secret is out. This means I can have a paper mache interior, very light weight....

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Thats a good one I might use that one if it is ok with you..... TERRY
 
I understand what you're saying about cam and ET Bracket cars.

But, reads like the hobby got more expensive.

And Yes, you may use my suggestion on the interior. Just be sure the judges don't touch....

Everett
 
With parts defined by words such as appearing, sounding and excessive, I see a difficult road ahead. There is a tremendous conflict of interest when the rule interpreters are also competitors and defined by terms such as 'charter member'. I just spent a while perusing the bulletin board linked by the FAST page, and what a soap opera.
 
I like the "apearing, sounding, excessive" type descriptions. It sounds like a lot of fun to me. It leaves room for some creativity IMO - like paper mache interiors, etc. LOL

I wonder if I could get my Comp 294s to idle smooth enough to get it to "sound" stock - use manifold advance, bump the idle speed up a bit, X-pipe, mufflers, etc.

As long as the sport doesn't turn into one where the guy with the most money always wins I think it would be fun.
 
That's what I was saying - "good intentions pave the way to - where?"

Anything subject to interpretation is fine. However, if my "stock sounding" cammed car blows the doors off one of the other fellows who makes the rules, he might decided it "doesn't sound stock", and I'm out.

Your paper-mache interior is great. Until someone decides it's against the spirit of the rules and you're deemed illegal.

I re-read one rule section I had a problem with, which would rule the ZL1 illegal, and I re-read it and it said "factory built LIGHTWEIGHT" cars designed for drag racing. This doesn't eliminate the COPO's, ZL1's and the 50 or so cars (that really weren't "generally available to the public") delivered to slide into the "Stock" or "Super Stock" NHRA class - this is INTENDED to eliminate the cars that had frames drilled with holes and had fiberglass stuff all over them (mopar).

However, if you put a spec on something - say the camshaft - then you open yourself up to a protest and a tear-down if someone complains.
(added cost of enforcing the rules)

The other thing I don't like - you KNOW it's illegal to run these cars at NHRA sanctioned tracks (safety reasons) so that's why you patronize IHRA tracks. Circumventing safety is asking for trouble. Sooner or later it will catch up with you.

Someone should repost that 69 Camaro that rolled over and was destroyed. If that happened to the fellow with the ZL1, you'd be swept off the track. That roll bar in the car in question prevented the roof from collapsing in on the driver and/or decapitating the guy. Stuff happens.

The FAST rules should be designed around SAFETY 1st and foremost. Then try and classify cars the way you'd like.

After safety, the next goal should be to have fun. I think the theory or intent of the class in general is a good idea, just as long as noone gets killed while having fun.
 
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