Hey guys,just joined the forum. Just purchased a 1969 RS SS 396 4-speed survivor off eBay. Numbers matching drivetrain with dusk blue exterior and dark blue interior. I’ve been looking for years so I’m glad to have finally found the car. Looking forward to hearing and learning more about these cars.
1969 Camaro RS SS (eBay)
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Question. Is there a partial VIN located anywhere on the block? The partial VIN on the transmission matches the cars VIN and it being a 4 speed.
There should be. It would be down by the oil filter stamped vertically. They can be difficult to see because of the surface where they stamped them. Sometimes partial VINs are on the pad under the alternator, but more than likely yours is by the oil filter.
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As said above, in 69 the VIN was stamped on the flange where the bell housing meets. Neat car! I was watching the auction to see where this one would go. It apparently did not meet reserve at $41K on eBay. Since you bought it outside the auction, I would have to assume the actual selling price was in this ballpark. That's the tough part of gauging values based on eBay auctions - a lot of cars like this don't hit reserve, and end up selling outside the auction.
I like to keep a "pulse" of the market because I have a very similar car - except mine is a Garnet Red convetible with black deluxe. Mine lived almost all of its life on the west coast. I am pretty sure that I am the third registered owner, although it traded hands with a few collectors but was not driven before I got it. I've had it for over 20 years. Have two kids starting college in the next five years, so I like to keep an eye on the market just in case.
Enjoy your new ride! Hope you get as much enjoyment driving yours as I get from mine!
I like to keep a "pulse" of the market because I have a very similar car - except mine is a Garnet Red convetible with black deluxe. Mine lived almost all of its life on the west coast. I am pretty sure that I am the third registered owner, although it traded hands with a few collectors but was not driven before I got it. I've had it for over 20 years. Have two kids starting college in the next five years, so I like to keep an eye on the market just in case.
Enjoy your new ride! Hope you get as much enjoyment driving yours as I get from mine!
Great market to sell an original car. Price's are strong for these cars.As said above, in 69 the VIN was stamped on the flange where the bell housing meets. Neat car! I was watching the auction to see where this one would go. It apparently did not meet reserve at $41K on eBay. Since you bought it outside the auction, I would have to assume the actual selling price was in this ballpark. That's the tough part of gauging values based on eBay auctions - a lot of cars like this don't hit reserve, and end up selling outside the auction.
I like to keep a "pulse" of the market because I have a very similar car - except mine is a Garnet Red convetible with black deluxe. Mine lived almost all of its life on the west coast. I am pretty sure that I am the third registered owner, although it traded hands with a few collectors but was not driven before I got it. I've had it for over 20 years. Have two kids starting college in the next five years, so I like to keep an eye on the market just in case.
Enjoy your new ride! Hope you get as much enjoyment driving yours as I get from mine!
Thank you for the photos and info. Very helpful. I will report back soon with more info.There should be. It would be down by the oil filter stamped vertically. They can be difficult to see because of the surface where they stamped them. Sometimes partial VINs are on the pad under the alternator, but more than likely yours is by the oil filter.
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Ok, received the car today. It's a beauty. I took a few numbers to verify it is a numbers matching drivetrain.
VIN number 124379L522031
Engine Vin: Only can read the last 3 digits on the vertical stamp next to oil filer. 031
Axle Code: BL1203G2
Transmission Code: P9B01A
Tansmission VIN: L522031
The weird part is the protecto plate Transmission code9R01 and Engine Code T0131Jb does not match the engine. The Axle Code and VIN do match the protecto plate. I have confirmed it's numbers matching from the partial vins on both the Engine and Transmission.
VIN number 124379L522031
Engine Vin: Only can read the last 3 digits on the vertical stamp next to oil filer. 031
Axle Code: BL1203G2
Transmission Code: P9B01A
Tansmission VIN: L522031
The weird part is the protecto plate Transmission code
9R01 and Engine Code T0131Jb does not match the engine. The Axle Code and VIN do match the protecto plate. I have confirmed it's numbers matching from the partial vins on both the Engine and Transmission.What is the actual code stamped on the engine pad? Can you get a good picture of it? Can you get a good picture of the partial VIN by the oil filter flange? The codes should match the Protecto plate and the partial VIN on the engine and trans should match the car's VIN to be considered matching numbers.
Are you sure the code in the transmission is P9B01A and not P9R01A? The A won't show up on the Protecto plate so don't worry about that.
Are you sure the code in the transmission is P9B01A and not P9R01A? The A won't show up on the Protecto plate so don't worry about that.
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In a way I envy you, and in a way I don't. What to do? I think I remember you (or someone) saying the interior has been restored? I wonder if that removes it from the "Survivor" category. On the outside, it is in such good original (survivor) condition, I would be stuck on which way to go, but if it has been restored in some area, then it might already be decided. Restore it! Aside from that quandary, I envy you for sure!
I wonder when the white stripe on the hood was added. You have a photo (on the Yenko forum) the original owner took, which does not show the stripe.
Brett.......
I wonder when the white stripe on the hood was added. You have a photo (on the Yenko forum) the original owner took, which does not show the stripe.
Brett.......
You probably want to get some real good pictures of the engine and trans stampings including the partial VINs and let some of the experts see them to determine if they are original stampings. It's really odd that the stampings don't match the POP yet have the partial VIN.
I have some great photos if partial vins and have already forwarded to the appropriate parties with correct verification.
I rarely chime in but....I WOULD NOT restore this car!!! I would walk past a hundred trailer queen Camaros with their base coat clear paint jobs to see this car at a show! I don't have to wonder if car is original with sheet metal made in America. I think the present condition of this car is what makes it unique and would only do what is necessary to make it mechanically sound and safe to drive and enjoy! Cars like this are not easy to come by and hope you preserve as is.(just my two cents!). Congratulations on a great car!
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I totally agree! Great car, enjoy it!!!
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I know everyone has different tastes, but with all the repainted cars out there, it doesn't seem like it would make sense for someone to purchase a unrestored car, patina and all just to re-paint, and re-do most of the car.
Some may see a car like this and say " oh that is the perfect car to do a full resto on", but every time that happens there is one less original unrestored car out there. Unfortunate IMO.
It is their car they paid money for, I just don't get the thinking.
If you are going to re-paint it, why not just buy a finished car or a car that has already been repainted, or has had a few repaints already?
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(no offense Clill) maybe you or someone else can explain that line of thinking to me. thanks:smile2:
Some may see a car like this and say " oh that is the perfect car to do a full resto on", but every time that happens there is one less original unrestored car out there. Unfortunate IMO.
It is their car they paid money for, I just don't get the thinking.
If you are going to re-paint it, why not just buy a finished car or a car that has already been repainted, or has had a few repaints already?
:clonk:
(no offense Clill) maybe you or someone else can explain that line of thinking to me. thanks:smile2:
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