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#21 ·
Don't blame the UPS/ Fed Ex.
I had the same experience thru Summit with 2 sets of Hedman Elite's for my BB 69. Both sets had scrape marks and scratches on the # 1 and # 2 Tubes right where they come off the Head Flange, that is the highest visibility area.
Summit had no problem returning them, they had that 1/8" foam wrapped around like 1 turn. The Manufactures should Wrap with Extra Bubble wrap in these areas.
I'm sure they have seen many returned for the Money we pay, they should be shipped like "fine China".

And I am no closer deciding which Header to buy for my 69 427, Unbelievable with all the CNC/ CAD/ and Automated Manufacturing, there is still no clear Winner in the BB Header Challenge for our Camaros.

How is the Oil Filter Access for the Hooker 2457/ 2205's with a Hamburger Bumped out pan ? More Problems :yes:

Timmy
 
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french69ssrs said:
Don't blame the UPS/ Fed Ex.
I had the same experience thru Summit with 2 sets of Hedman Elite's for my BB 69. Both sets had scrape marks and scratches on the # 1 and # 2 Tubes right where they come off the Head Flange, that is the highest visibility area.
Summit had no problem returning them, they had that 1/8" foam wrapped around like 1 turn. The Manufactures should Wrap with Extra Bubble wrap in these areas.
I'm sure they have seen many returned for the Money we pay, they should be shipped like "fine China".

And I am no closer deciding which Header to buy for my 69 427, Unbelievable with all the CNC/ CAD/ and Automated Manufacturing, there is still no clear Winner in the BB Header Challenge for our Camaros.

How is the Oil Filter Access for the Hooker 2457/ 2205's with a Hamburger Bumped out pan ? More Problems :yes:

Timmy
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I agree on the fine scratches NOT being the fault of the shipping company.

But the multiple holes through both boxes I would think to be more likely a shipping issue, but who can say for sure.

Dynatech has been awesome, the second set of headers I received just cleared the steering box but the rag joint rubs the #7 primary tube. They are just finishing up their latest revision to the drivers side header for first generation Camaros which is to address steering box issues (to be compatible with more boxes) and to deal with wider heads such as the AFR210's which is what I'm working with. They are scheduled to ship me one to try fresh out of ceramic coating on March 28th if all goes well. I'll post a followup with the results and photos between the one with issues and the latest revision they send me.
 
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Dragonfly Jones said:
How did those headers fit your bb Tim?
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Hi Jerry
Sorry I missed your Post, I was "Parts Hoarding" at the Time trying to bring in/ Collect the Big $ parts as I thought what I needed so the Wife would not catch on :(

I never got to trying the Hedmans, other than the Scrapes, they looked Great, I liked the Ball/ Flange Swivel for the Collector hookup. I wished Hooker turned the Tri Flange like 60 deg. Returned them to Summit and still trying to figure out what I want to buy, just don't want to make a mistake and have to beat them, Small Block people want to help but what works for them does not help us BB's.

I am still building my 427 BB and my Car is in the Rotisserie.
What are you running and how did they Fit ?

Timmy
 

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NH69Z28RS said:
Hey Kevin, I'm hoping you are wrong and being hopefully optimistic that the changes they have made will take care of the problem, but I am a realist and I am aware there may be further modifications necessary in order to reach the intended goal. But again, Dynatech has been very responsive to the problem and fairly quick to act, though this latest change was already in the works before I made them aware of my situation. I will definitely keep you posted.
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I first started talking with Greg about this same scenario several months ago. I really hope this new version works out. I have the same AFR210's, power steering and a gen 3 box. He has personally called me, emailed me and kept me in the loop about the revised header for my application. His customer service is second to none. He last called a few weeks ago and said they were being sent to be coated and he would call to finalize my order. i though I would have heard something by now but it sounds like you have been doing some R&D for them:D
I look forward to your results. If you talk to Greg before me, tell him I'm anxious to get mine as well

Mike
 
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french69ssrs said:
Hi Jerry
Sorry I missed your Post, I was "Parts Hoarding" at the Time trying to bring in/ Collect the Big $ parts as I thought what I needed so the Wife would not catch on :(

I never got to trying the Hedmans, other than the Scrapes, they looked Great, I liked the Ball/ Flange Swivel for the Collector hookup. I wished Hooker turned the Tri Flange like 60 deg. Returned them to Summit and still trying to figure out what I want to buy, just don't want to make a mistake and have to beat them, Small Block people want to help but what works for them does not help us BB's.

I am still building my 427 BB and my Car is in the Rotisserie.
What are you running and how did they Fit ?

Timmy
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Im going to be running a 565 with AFR 335s. Im hoping I can get the header fitment resolved before the motor is ready.
 
#28 ·
Very interesting thread, I have BB 68, curruntly the car has Hooker Comps on it and they fit great with no issues. They are just painted steel though, I clean them and repainted with POR heat paint when I had the motor out to freshen up.

But I know sooner or later new headers will be on the buy list and am wanting to go ceramic so they look nicer and last longer.
Dynatech from this post is at the top of this list due to the customer service you are getting so far. If it all checks out and they deliver on ther word, that's who I will be getting my next headers from.

A lot of business forget the interweb and forums is thier best marketing tool and customer service goes a long way nowadays. They are getting positive advertising right now from you, for just having good communication and customer service and don't even know they are gathering future business by just handeling the issues with you so well.
 
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Smitty68 said:
Do you have any updates on your headers Scott? Great post on this subject a lot of great info shared. I'm looking at getting the exact set you have ordered. Any info you have will greatly be appreciated.
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I put a call in to Greg exactly one week ago today just checking in to verify if things were on schedule, had to leave him a voice message. I received a call back first thing Monday of this week, they were at a show from Wed thru Fri of last week. He spent at least 20 minutes on the phone with me after giving me the update which was that the ceramic coating backed things up by one week. He then explained what he and Rick had been working on related to all of this, it's all good. He expects to receive the headers from ceramic coating by this coming Friday and turn them right around and ship them to me.

With all he and Rick have done on this latest revision, I (and they) have very high hopes that it will solve the issue with my combination and every other combination they could come up with which includes but is not limited to original small blocks (with three different engine stands and a number of different motor mounts), LS conversions, a number of different steering setups and larger after market heads such as the AFR 210's. He explained they have a 1st Gen clip they had restored and mounted up off the floor so they can test fit numerous combos with easy access, they brought it to the show they were just at. I'm impressed at the lengths they have gone to in an effort to make their product the best they can. I'll keep this thread updated as progress warrants.
 
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NH69Z28RS said:
I put a call in to Greg exactly one week ago today just checking in to verify if things were on schedule, had to leave him a voice message. I received a call back first thing Monday of this week, they were at a show from Wed thru Fri of last week. He spent at least 20 minutes on the phone with me after giving me the update which was that the ceramic coating backed things up by one week. He then explained what he and Rick had been working on related to all of this, it's all good. He expects to receive the headers from ceramic coating by this coming Friday and turn them right around and ship them to me.

With all he and Rick have done on this latest revision, I (and they) have very high hopes that it will solve the issue with my combination and every other combination they could come up with which includes but is not limited to original small blocks (with three different engine stands and a number of different motor mounts), LS conversions, a number of different steering setups and larger after market heads such as the AFR 210's. He explained they have a 1st Gen clip they had restored and mounted up off the floor so they can test fit numerous combos with easy access, they brought it to the show they were just at. I'm impressed at the lengths they have gone to in an effort to make their product the best they can. I'll keep this thread updated as progress warrants.
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Thank you very much sir! I will and be looking forward to hearing the results on this. I am dead set on getting these headers and getting the part number and if yours works out to be a perfect fit. I want the same none the less. Steiner had told me his was near perfect fit. Even if they are that close I'm sold, I just need a reference or part number to go by.
Thank you again for the update and info.
 
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So today the long awaited latest revision to the Dynatech 1st Generation Camaro headers arrived and with much anticipation, I opened the box and set the new header next to the previous one that had an issue between the number seven primary tube and the steering column rag joint. Comparing the two headers visually showed little indication of any difference so I headed out to my garage to install and check fitment to find out once and for all. I was very satisfied to see that not only was there approximately 3/8" clearance by the rag joint now, but the other three drivers side primary tubes were further away from the steering box leaving 1/4" to 3/8" of clearance between each tube and the box.

Knowing that a picture is worth a thousand words and that seeing is believing, I took 14 photos each of the drivers and passengers side which follow this reply in two additional posts. Kudos to Rick at Dynatech for nailing this solution and to Greg as he was big part of the process as well. Thank you to both of you for your efforts on this one :thumbsup: I'm extremely pleased I chose Dynatech for my replacement headers.
 
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MikeMcMasters said:
Good deal Scott. The one picture of the passenger side looks like that fuel line is really close or it could just be the angle. Either way, it won't be hard to tweak it a little. :thumbsup:
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Yeah, that fuel line is formed to go around the idler arm but it goes much further around it than necessary. I'll probably re-form it a bit to pull it into the frame a bit as there is no need for it to be so far away. I'll measure the closest point tomorrow but I'm thinking it's about a 1/2" away from the header tube right now.
 
#38 ·
I had a similar issue with the fuel line and the Doug's D-368's I used on my '69. I spliced the fuel line under the car before it comes up over the subframe and made a new piece running the fuel line on top of the subframe to keep it away from the headers.
 
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They look awesome Scott! That's all I needed to see or hear. I called Greg yesterday and got some more info from him about your set and Mikes. I went ahead and pulled the trigger on the last set of the revised ones like yours. They look great man, and should. Thank you for the update pm and all of you and Mikes info on this. :beers:
 
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Wow they look awesome. Great deal. I'm glad it turned out like it did since it would've made me look like an ******* for recommending them otherwise. Of course, there's plenty more things that make me look like one.
 
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