Trim tag reproduction....hope this doesn't get out of hand!
gordr
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I'm going to try and find out who this is as I moved from there and it's a small town.....
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In Oklahoma it is illegal to tamper with a cowl tag. The rest of the country should follow:
http://chevellestuff.net/misc/oklahoma_trim_tag_law.htm
http://www.oscn.net/applications/oscn/deliverdocument.asp?id=450125
http://chevellestuff.net/misc/oklahoma_trim_tag_law.htm
http://www.oscn.net/applications/oscn/deliverdocument.asp?id=450125
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Looking at those tags, he is not a real threat, unless you are as clueless as the guy making them.
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Call your state senator or congressman. Tell them what is going on.
I wrote the Oklahoma law. I didn't have 20 hours in the process from start to finish, and that included some great input from Verne Frantz and meeting with the Senator and the used car lobby guys.
You don't even have to spend as much time as I did. Just copy the Okla. law.
I wrote the Oklahoma law. I didn't have 20 hours in the process from start to finish, and that included some great input from Verne Frantz and meeting with the Senator and the used car lobby guys.
You don't even have to spend as much time as I did. Just copy the Okla. law.
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"Here's your winnings Louie!"
Yup this isn't the first guy to do this, there have been a bunch selling these as all you need is to contact a die maker for the dies with movable type to fit into a five ton hand operated Arbor press.
I have seen order sheets on line with every option Chevy offered that you just checked off whatever item you have added to your Camaro. Like hide away head lights and a set of back up light in the tail light panel, or maybe even SS trim or a console with gauges? This was done by the enterprising tag seller to help you pick out your car from the others at the car show. (like the rare 454 powered 1969 Z/28 RS-SS with the Corvette five spoke wheels).
They would also sell you the star rivets individually or bagged in a set of four. If you where going into the Camaro building business they had star rivets sold in bags of 100. Since the rivets are stainless steel, and not aluminum they also will sell you a HD rivet gun to draw those trim tags up tight.
Of course this is because I have been trolling the internet since the days of text scripts linking universities together while I was sitting in the cold computer room reading the monochrome green screens while my boxes on punched code instructs awaited their turn to be compiled and run.
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I have seen some tags that are so well done you can't even tell. Shoot, one of the guys advertises in all the major auto magazines, and will make you whatever you want. Sucks but its the same thing that there are more registered L-88 corvettes on the road now than were ever manufactured. People fake stuff all the time. Not hard to do as previously stated, people reman/reverse engineer far more difficult things everyday.
To add some foreign flavour to this discussion, I am in England and am restoring a 67 Camaro, it is not a big deal to remove tags here to paint the car or even to transfer tags from one damaged part to a replacement panel. I have done it on a couple of my Opel Mantas because the front nose cone rusts out and the tags a mounted to the nose cone.
My 67 came with a virtually unreadable trim tag, it had received a big knock from the tail housing of the TH350 when the last owner was swopping engines the bulkhead was also rusted right out so a replacement was needed.
I have removed the damaged tag and I might well get a new one made up. It will read as it did from new and I wont be adding options even though the car now has things on it that it did not have from new.
To me its nice to just have an undamaged tag. The damaged one will stay in the build book so will remain with the cars history.
My 67 came with a virtually unreadable trim tag, it had received a big knock from the tail housing of the TH350 when the last owner was swopping engines the bulkhead was also rusted right out so a replacement was needed.
I have removed the damaged tag and I might well get a new one made up. It will read as it did from new and I wont be adding options even though the car now has things on it that it did not have from new.
To me its nice to just have an undamaged tag. The damaged one will stay in the build book so will remain with the cars history.
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All this BS is near and dear to me. Unless you have been scammed once, reading about it is one thing! I hope the worst karma life can offer lies with these people. Sorry....unlike me to feel like this but dang....!
You would think having GM on it and being copy write protected....they would hammer these guys ?
I guess I'm lucky to have a 68 and it doesn't matter about what the tag has ?
But then there's the faked paperwork out there too......thieves
I guess I'm lucky to have a 68 and it doesn't matter about what the tag has ?
But then there's the faked paperwork out there too......thieves
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Well sort of...There is the build date that must closely follow the dates on major components.You would think having GM on it and being copy write protected....they would hammer these guys ?
I guess I'm lucky to have a 68 and it doesn't matter about what the tag has ?
But then there's the faked paperwork out there too......thieves
And thank goodness for NCRS shipping dates that fall in line!
I was put off when I first saw the TT rivets on ebay. Something must be done about this before it hits the mainstream. At shows and cruise nights it is amazing just how many folks don't get into the numbers thing. I meet guys all the time that seriously have no clue about tags or coding. These are people with found money to get into the hobby. Sad to say, but these people will buy what they want and really don't give a hoot about authenticity.
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I can't believe that someone would add options to a tag in order to change a cars value!
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