Need Help with correct Fender baffle for 68 SS coupe with factory A/C. Are there two types of A/C fender baffles for 1968? The 68 AIM shows a fender baffle design with a "double cross" stamp in the metal and I have a RH baffle that looks just like the AIM. A vender has been trying to sell me a different design that he says is correct for 1968 but it looks more like a 1969 baffle to me ( has "X" stamp. I claim that there is only one correct baffle for 1968 coupe and it does not have an "X" on it and it is actually slightly larger than the 68 fender baffle. See attached pdf for pics of 68 and 69 (?). Please help, I need an expert to weigh in here on the correct design for 68 A/C fender baffle! Also, were there two designs for 1969 A/C fender baffle for coupe ( maybe one for RS and another for non RS cars)?
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Need Help with correct Fender baffle for 68 SS coupe with factory A/C. Are there two types of A/C fender baffles for 1968? The 68 AIM shows a fender baffle design with a "double cross" stamp in the metal and I have a RH baffle that looks just like the AIM. A vender has been trying to sell me a different design that he says is correct for 1968 but it looks more like a 1969 baffle to me ( has "X" stamp. I claim that there is only one correct baffle for 1968 coupe and it does not have an "X" on it and it is actually slightly larger than the 68 fender baffle. See attached pdf for pics of 68 and 69 (?). Please help, I need an expert to weigh in here on the correct design for 68 A/C fender baffle! Also, were there two designs for 1969 A/C fender baffle for coupe ( maybe one for RS and another for non RS cars)?
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Allen from my experience with just 69 camaros, there are 2 types of baffels, one for hard top camaro and a different one for ragtop cars. The ragtops have those 'cocktail shakers' in all 4 corners of the car, so up front those shakers interfere with the baffel, so Chev put a bend in the baffels used on the ragtop cars. Just a guess but I bet the curved pair would work fine in the hardtop camaro but the flat type wont fit the ragtop camaro in front of the 'shakers'.
Im not aware if 68 had the same 2 types, flat and curved but my 69 baffels both had the X on them. The 68 is shaped differently so maybe they didnt have that ragtop issue then. Lets let others chime in here.
My 69 baffel:
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Im not aware if 68 had the same 2 types, flat and curved but my 69 baffels both had the X on them. The 68 is shaped differently so maybe they didnt have that ragtop issue then. Lets let others chime in here.
My 69 baffel:
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Thanks for the reply and the excellent pictures Jim (wow!). I have done some more research and I found the differences you mention regarding fender baffles for coupe and convertible. The Coupes are flat and the convertibles have a pronounced curve to bend around the shakers. I believe your photos are from a 1969 coupe (right). My theory right now is that there is one fender baffle design for late 1968 coupes with A/C and two designs for 1969 coupes ( and another for the 69 convertibles). I believe the design shown in your pics is the later 1969 design without the metal lower extension on the out board corner. The 1969s have 'X' stamped into the metal. Also, as is seen in your pics, the notch in the middle is to clear the side marker lamps. The 1968 fender baffles are different than the 1969's -a "double crossed" stamp and a slightly smaller side to side dimensions ( illustrated on page 201 of 68 AIM). Also, there is no notch in the middle of the 68's. You can see the difference in the picture I posted and the pictures you posted ( difference between the 1968 and 1969). This is my current theory based on limited research. What I want to know is specific to 1968 - is there only one design for the AC fender baffles for 1968 coupe or are there two designs correct for the 68 coupe ( one design with "double cross" stamping in the metal and another 68 design with the "X" stamping in the metal? Or is there only one design for 1968 coupes as shown in the AIM? Jim, are you familiar with the 1968 fender baffle designs or do you know someone who can provide the definitive answer?
Thanks very much!
Thanks very much!
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My 69 was the only car I had and the baffles were in pretty good shape. I dont know a thing about the 68's so we have to wait for some folks who know them to step forward. With the holidays almost over, I bet something comes in here in the next week. 
The fenders on the 68's are definitely curved differently than the 69's and without the side light too. Im sure the 68 baffles will be their own beast to find and restore. Lucky for me I found a source (dont recall who) for the the rubber type membrane on the outside edges of my baffles . I then used stiff wire to install them onto the baffle.
The fenders on the 68's are definitely curved differently than the 69's and without the side light too. Im sure the 68 baffles will be their own beast to find and restore. Lucky for me I found a source (dont recall who) for the the rubber type membrane on the outside edges of my baffles . I then used stiff wire to install them onto the baffle.
Allen,
The baffle on the left in your picture is correct for a 68 coupe with AC. Looking at the 68 Aim you see the conv. exception note which indicates there is a different baffle for the conv.
There are no revisions in the revision record and it was drawn in 11-3-67 which indicate to me that these baffles where in production from 68 production start up.
I no longer have the BB 68 coupe that I bought in July of 68 but it had the baffles shown in your LH picture which confirms to me that there was never a 2nd designed baffle in 68.
Bob
The baffle on the left in your picture is correct for a 68 coupe with AC. Looking at the 68 Aim you see the conv. exception note which indicates there is a different baffle for the conv.
There are no revisions in the revision record and it was drawn in 11-3-67 which indicate to me that these baffles where in production from 68 production start up.
I no longer have the BB 68 coupe that I bought in July of 68 but it had the baffles shown in your LH picture which confirms to me that there was never a 2nd designed baffle in 68.
Bob
Jim,
Your lower 2 pictures are the correct 1st design coupe baffles for 69 but the 1st picture is the 2nd (redesigned) coupe baffle for 69.
69 AIM C60 B3 shows the 1st 69 design coupe and conv. baffle.
Makes you wonder why GM did not design the first coupe baffle more like conv. baffle.
Bob
Your lower 2 pictures are the correct 1st design coupe baffles for 69 but the 1st picture is the 2nd (redesigned) coupe baffle for 69.
69 AIM C60 B3 shows the 1st 69 design coupe and conv. baffle.
Makes you wonder why GM did not design the first coupe baffle more like conv. baffle.
Bob
Hi Bob,
Thanks for the post and the great information. I have had several folks try to sell me the 1969 baffles as substitutes for the correct 1968 baffles. Thanks for confirming that indeed the 1968 AC baffles are fundamentally different than either of the 1969 fender baffle designs. Do you know anyone who might have the correct AC baffles for 1969 Camaro coupe?
Allen
Thanks for the post and the great information. I have had several folks try to sell me the 1969 baffles as substitutes for the correct 1968 baffles. Thanks for confirming that indeed the 1968 AC baffles are fundamentally different than either of the 1969 fender baffle designs. Do you know anyone who might have the correct AC baffles for 1969 Camaro coupe?
Allen
Allen,
Sorry, the last pair I have seen was on eBay about 4 years ago.
I have been looking for the big POA tube ( 68 AIM C60 D2 #3 ) for a 68 bb for about 8 years. 68 AC parts are hard to find.
I have a question for you.
There is a rubber seal ( 68 AIM C60 B3 #1 ) that runs across your core support between the two fenders. Could you tell me how that seal is fastened to the core support.
Bob
Sorry, the last pair I have seen was on eBay about 4 years ago.
I have been looking for the big POA tube ( 68 AIM C60 D2 #3 ) for a 68 bb for about 8 years. 68 AC parts are hard to find.
I have a question for you.
There is a rubber seal ( 68 AIM C60 B3 #1 ) that runs across your core support between the two fenders. Could you tell me how that seal is fastened to the core support.
Bob
It will be almost impossible to find a set of NOS 68 A/C baffles since they were not released into production until 6/19/68 at the factory. Every other set was installed under a Technical Service Bulletin (68-T-73 issued on December 20th of 68. Very few 68s with A/C came with these installed at the factory.
Mark,
Are you sure about the production release date?
The 68 AIM C60 B3 shows a drawing release date of 11-7-67. I know of the variation between drawing and release date can very - or + a couple of months but 7 months is a stretch.
Is that release date from CRG or other information?
Bob
Are you sure about the production release date?
The 68 AIM C60 B3 shows a drawing release date of 11-7-67. I know of the variation between drawing and release date can very - or + a couple of months but 7 months is a stretch.
Is that release date from CRG or other information?
Bob
The release to the factory date is listed in the TSB I quoted above. Haven't tracked 68 A/C cars with or without the baffles, and there's probably no way to track ones installed by the TSB and those done at the factory at this point. I'll post a link to the TSB for everyone's reading pleasure when I get home tonight.
there is an ancient discussion about it on the CRG pages, more geared to the addition of the sealing strips on the radiator support and around the radiator, but it has some of the quotes out of the TSB in it.
http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=1726.0
there is an ancient discussion about it on the CRG pages, more geared to the addition of the sealing strips on the radiator support and around the radiator, but it has some of the quotes out of the TSB in it.
http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=1726.0
Wow this is great! Thanks guys for contributing to this thread and adding in links to the previous threads( Jim, Bob, Mark). The links from MarkC are excellent. The pages from the TSB are very interesting. To answer Bob's question to me about the seal across the top of the core support- I have a late build 68 SS L34 with factory A/C (3rd week July and Norwood plant). I think it has the original core support and it has the RH fender baffle but not the left half fender baffle. The left fender was replaced at some point with an NOS fender ( it still has remnants of the GM part number sticker on the inside). So I am guessing the car was wrecked at some point and the LH fender baffle may also have been damaged. My car also under went a restoration at some point about 8-12 years ago (I have only had it about 2 years now). The top of my core support has the dimples but no holes for the seal clips. That seal you mention was not on the car when I got it, but I plan to add it as I work through the engine compartment details.
Mark C's link ( topic=1726) has raised another important question about A/C parts. Note the pictures of cars on reply # 23 March 21, 2007. Note Picture 2 of the Norwood Camaro with factory A/C. Now note the A/C manifold muffler design. According to the AIM, that design for the muffler was used on the L6 engine and not the V8 engine ( the suction side goes up over the compressor on the manifold design used for V8 engines). However, I have noticed over the years there are a few V8 cars with factory A/C that use the muffler/ manifold style shown in this picture (the suction side pipe wraps more under the compressor on the L6 design type). Do you guys know if both manifold styles are correct for V8 cars or if the style shown in this picture is NOT correct for V8 cars?
Getting back to the 1968 fender baffle issue - I am getting depressed. I can't seem to find one anywhere. But man, I have sure learned a lot from Jim, Bob and Mark C, thanks very much. This Team Camaro Forum is fantastic!
Allen
Mark C's link ( topic=1726) has raised another important question about A/C parts. Note the pictures of cars on reply # 23 March 21, 2007. Note Picture 2 of the Norwood Camaro with factory A/C. Now note the A/C manifold muffler design. According to the AIM, that design for the muffler was used on the L6 engine and not the V8 engine ( the suction side goes up over the compressor on the manifold design used for V8 engines). However, I have noticed over the years there are a few V8 cars with factory A/C that use the muffler/ manifold style shown in this picture (the suction side pipe wraps more under the compressor on the L6 design type). Do you guys know if both manifold styles are correct for V8 cars or if the style shown in this picture is NOT correct for V8 cars?
Getting back to the 1968 fender baffle issue - I am getting depressed. I can't seem to find one anywhere. But man, I have sure learned a lot from Jim, Bob and Mark C, thanks very much. This Team Camaro Forum is fantastic!
Allen
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