So heres the problem any help would be greatly appreciated. I got a 69 camaro as a graduation present but when I tried to get the title transferred we found out the vin plate got misplaced when the car was moved from my cousins house (where we bought it) to where im at not sure if its in his garage but I cant find a complete vin on the car to get a tracer of for the vin any ideas where all to look?
69 Camaro vin trouble
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Somewhere I seem to remember having seen a quote that when the regular production year ended for 1969 model year at all the other GM plants and the Camaro production was extended at Norwood that two or more weeks worth of trimtags were stamped all at once by Fisher all with 08A so Fisher Body workers at Norwood could vacation as normal. If that is true, is it possible that only extended run vehicles physically assembled and expected to be shipped to dealer on the deadline of September 1 or later had the extra vin tag stickers? Bodys not waiting on specialized parts rolled quicker then those being held back for parts or special runs such as Z28's but William and the CRG folks that were there would be the best to question on this.
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FYI- That is a reproduction sticker on that car in Jerrys book. (page 200)
You can check it vs. an original and see the difference.
After searching and looking at many August cars, the earliest car I have seen with the blue Vin sticker was an 08E car, which would have been delivered in September. I would welcome anyone who has a august of 69 car with he blue vin sticker to come forward though...:smile2:
You can check it vs. an original and see the difference.
After searching and looking at many August cars, the earliest car I have seen with the blue Vin sticker was an 08E car, which would have been delivered in September. I would welcome anyone who has a august of 69 car with he blue vin sticker to come forward though...:smile2:
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So, why where you searching a 2.5 year old thread?:nerd:
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1) I didn't see Ed had responded back then
2) I wanted to make sure I set the record straight, and make sure 08A-08D guys aren't thinking there car is incorrect because it doesn't have the sticker.
3) I have a 08C (late 69) Camaro, and I am gathering all the info I can on late August built cars.
This thread happen to pop up in my search.:smile2:
2) I wanted to make sure I set the record straight, and make sure 08A-08D guys aren't thinking there car is incorrect because it doesn't have the sticker.
3) I have a 08C (late 69) Camaro, and I am gathering all the info I can on late August built cars.
This thread happen to pop up in my search.:smile2:
This is my door off my 08D. This area is all original paint and I don't believe it ever had a sticker besides the ones you see here.
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*I think it would help those interested in knowing what an original sticker looked like.
The info on these stickers is pretty scarce, I was at the fall Auburn Indiana auction a couple of years ago and the owner of a low milage orange Yenko had the blue vin sticker on his door (His car was a March of 69 car). It was funny to see a "survivor" car with this incorrect detail.
With (what appears to be) mis-information out there, there could be many 08A-08D (Late August cars) with the blue VIN sticker now, claiming it to be an original. I would just prefer not to re-write history on this important fact.
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Maybe I missed it. Can you tell us the build month and week on the trim tag of this car.
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He believes his is an Oct. build.
I can say for certain that my 08A car did NOT have the mylar vin sticker in the door.
I always thought John Berry's (I believe it has since changed hands) white 08A Z did have the sticker, (the one in Jerry's book). It is less than 100 cars after mine, built the same week. That is why I always believed the practice started first week of August. Not sure who came up with the first week of Sept. as the start date. Normally GM started the next model year in August. That is why the BDY number was reset, to signal the beginning of the models subject to the 70 model year regs. My BDY number indicates it is one of the first 381 cars after the reset.
I had heard there were some other odd issues with the white car (being a 5,000 mile car when Jerry wrote the book) after talking to a fellow who had examined it closely. I had no idea the sticker might be a repro. Are you certain?
One would think Jerry would have caught that at the time.
I spoke with John right after he sold the car, and he certainly didn't indicate there were any repro parts on it.
I can say for certain that my 08A car did NOT have the mylar vin sticker in the door.
I always thought John Berry's (I believe it has since changed hands) white 08A Z did have the sticker, (the one in Jerry's book). It is less than 100 cars after mine, built the same week. That is why I always believed the practice started first week of August. Not sure who came up with the first week of Sept. as the start date. Normally GM started the next model year in August. That is why the BDY number was reset, to signal the beginning of the models subject to the 70 model year regs. My BDY number indicates it is one of the first 381 cars after the reset.
I had heard there were some other odd issues with the white car (being a 5,000 mile car when Jerry wrote the book) after talking to a fellow who had examined it closely. I had no idea the sticker might be a repro. Are you certain?
One would think Jerry would have caught that at the time.
I spoke with John right after he sold the car, and he certainly didn't indicate there were any repro parts on it.
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It is pretty easy to see in the book it is a reproduction sticker. ( I even asked of pictures of the original, and I was told none were taken of it during the restoration). I have seen many originals and the one in the book doesn't look the same. In John Berrys defense I also ran across a March of 69 orange Yenko at the auburn auction with very low miles that was claimed unrestored and it had the blue vin door sticker. My point being, even the best of cars can have incorrect items added.
Your point about august being the beginning of the extended run is correct, but I believe the federal government mandated the vin sticker on the door beginning September 1st of 69, which led to any cars being delivered in September to also have the sticker, hence 08E cars that have the sticker.
Your point about august being the beginning of the extended run is correct, but I believe the federal government mandated the vin sticker on the door beginning September 1st of 69, which led to any cars being delivered in September to also have the sticker, hence 08E cars that have the sticker.
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