The subjeact of 80% Quarters have come up alot more than once in this forum, and I have been planning for a long time to use them on my car but it seams that the majority of people here say it's better to use full quarters than 80%. This is a site that I came accross thru Team Camaro http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/ochrisl/album?.dir=f773&.src=ph I dont know who's it is but the prosess of replacing 80% quarters (this one on a Chevelle) looked not only easy but something I could do in the space and time that I have in restoring my coupe. Money is also a problem. I can afford the 80% more along with the inner and outer wheel housings I have to replace, all this on both sides of the car. Is there anyone out there that has replaced the 1/4s with 80% and not had the nightmares that have been discribed by others?
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The subjeact of 80% Quarters have come up alot more than once in this forum, and I have been planning for a long time to use them on my car but it seams that the majority of people here say it's better to use full quarters than 80%. This is a site that I came accross thru Team Camaro http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/ochrisl/album?.dir=f773&.src=ph I dont know who's it is but the prosess of replacing 80% quarters (this one on a Chevelle) looked not only easy but something I could do in the space and time that I have in restoring my coupe. Money is also a problem. I can afford the 80% more along with the inner and outer wheel housings I have to replace, all this on both sides of the car. Is there anyone out there that has replaced the 1/4s with 80% and not had the nightmares that have been discribed by others?
you can make a good job out of the 80% 1/4's with some trimming here and there but as far as putting them on the way they come out of the box ,,,no way , you will see what I am talking about if you decide to try it ,
they don't fit around the tailpan
they don't fit where the trunk open's
they are flat beside the the trunk lid where they should be slightly curved
they are cut to weld on in a tight spot right under the 1/4 window
as you already said most here say they are no good , their is a reason for that and it is that they DON'T FIT AT ALL ,,,
after doing a set myself I could do another set now with good result's but when I get done with them they won't look anything like they came out of the box ,
good luck if you try them
they don't fit around the tailpan
they don't fit where the trunk open's
they are flat beside the the trunk lid where they should be slightly curved
they are cut to weld on in a tight spot right under the 1/4 window
as you already said most here say they are no good , their is a reason for that and it is that they DON'T FIT AT ALL ,,,
after doing a set myself I could do another set now with good result's but when I get done with them they won't look anything like they came out of the box ,
good luck if you try them
HEY WAIT A MINUTE ??
I just looked at the chevelle you put a link of and they are using skin's those work fine , are you wanting to use skin's or 80% 1/4's ???
because those are two different thing's , the skin's for a 67 68 camaro are great just be sure to cut of the lip on top of them and they work out great ,,
just cunfused me a little there
I just looked at the chevelle you put a link of and they are using skin's those work fine , are you wanting to use skin's or 80% 1/4's ???
because those are two different thing's , the skin's for a 67 68 camaro are great just be sure to cut of the lip on top of them and they work out great ,,
just cunfused me a little there
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Thats my Chevelle in that link. I also used the 80% quarters on my camaro. They worked fine for me. Any panel is going to need some tweaking to get it perfect.For the price of the panel you really can't complain. Dont cut them down the side though like on the chevelle. Seam them next to the trunk, about an inch before it drops off down the side of the car.Use your brain when you decide where to seam a panel. You want to do it in a place thats going to be easy to work the filler.If you just seam it down the middle of a panel you could be hanging yourself. Look at this picture -
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a214/shoddy_f-body/other stuff/quartercutline.jpg
I like the 80% panels because you leave your original trunk opening,sail panel, and door jamb areas.That seams to be the problem areas with the repro full quarters.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a214/shoddy_f-body/other stuff/quartercutline.jpg
I like the 80% panels because you leave your original trunk opening,sail panel, and door jamb areas.That seams to be the problem areas with the repro full quarters.
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I can understand using 80% qtrs if money is a concern, but other than that, I really can't see why anyone would prefer that over a full qtr. I put full qtrs on my car and I am glad I did. Someone had put an 80% type panel on my car several years ago, and I was never happy with the results.
When you replace a full qtr...almost all the seams are covered, since they are put back where the factory put the car together. The only place you have to really do any amount of filler work is at the sail panel, where the lead was. The other spots are filled with seam sealer.
Replacing the whole qtr gives you something to line everything up to also. This to me, was a big help.
I'm not saying a full qtr is the only way to go, but in my opinion, it is usually the best way.
When you replace a full qtr...almost all the seams are covered, since they are put back where the factory put the car together. The only place you have to really do any amount of filler work is at the sail panel, where the lead was. The other spots are filled with seam sealer.
Replacing the whole qtr gives you something to line everything up to also. This to me, was a big help.
I'm not saying a full qtr is the only way to go, but in my opinion, it is usually the best way.
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Well it is the only option for a convertible.Gambitt said:
According to all the complaints on this forum fit seems to be an issue with the full quarters.
If the damage is contained to just the wheel opening and lower quarter,some may prefer to stay out of the door and trunk jamb area and leave it original.
this picture is a perfect example of what I was talking about this is the same mistake that almost everyone makes , the 1/4 installed in this pic is a skin and they come with a small lip that hang's over the top just about 1 1/2 or so , all you have to do is cut of that lip and weld the 1/4 right on the top seam or body line , this work's out FANTASTIC if you weld right dead on the top body line it won't warp , also leave about 1/2 inch of the old 1/4 from the top line
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You can do an 80% panel the same way.Just trim it down. 80% wraps around to the tail pan,a skin doesnt. BTW thats the same picture i linked in my above post if anyone is wondering.It is a photo of my old 68.
shoddy_F-body, looks like a decent job from the pics. One thing I would mention in the pics is not to be agressive with a grinder as it could heat and warp the panel too.
I was planning on 80% quarters too as it looks like all I need is the wheel arch and lower F & R sections.
I was planning on 80% quarters too as it looks like all I need is the wheel arch and lower F & R sections.
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Now im really confused! All Im looking to do is the bad metal around the wheel arch. To replace more of the panel is not a problem for me, but is it possible for someone to draw a line on a pic of a rear quarter panel so myself and anyone else might use it as a referancs for were to cut when replacing the an 80% panel? My door jambs are good, my tail pan is good, but I will be removing and reinstalling new inner and outer wheel housings. Something like this would be of great use for me when I replacing my panels and also reduce some of the confusion, for me at least. hope that would be no trouble for someone?
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Hey all, I go to a website for "Paintucation" and the site has a glossary of definitions words they use on the website for obviouse reasons. http://www.paintucation.com/ (Click on Glossary) Sometimes people us words for parts or prosedures for restoring cars that I just dont understand and dont want to keep asking what something means and clutter up the forums with questions. Has anyone inquired about this B4?
Hey all, I go to a website for "Paintucation" and the site has a glossary of definitions words they use on the website for obviouse reasons. http://www.paintucation.com/ (Click on Glossary) Sometimes people us words for parts or prosedures for restoring cars that I just dont understand and dont want to keep asking what something means and clutter up the forums with questions. Has anyone inquired about this B4?
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Not sure what you need as far as pictures?I would put it in where the line is drawn in the pic above.Put it in to the factory seams at the tailpan and the rocker. At the door jamb you can wrap it inside the jamb.
so you guys would recommend the "above the body line" as shown on the oragne 68 posted above, compared to how StatisTraction did his?
here's his :
http://www.myonlineimages.com/Members/SatisTraction/Images/Thumbs/100_2390.JPG
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I was thinking of cutting about 1" below and following the contour of the body line, similar to his and the chevelle
Rob
here's his :
http://www.myonlineimages.com/Members/SatisTraction/Images/Thumbs/100_2390.JPG
I was thinking of cutting about 1" below and following the contour of the body line, similar to his and the chevelle
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Rob. i have done it both ways.Over the top on the orange car above and down the side on my 68 convert. I would say over the top is best.That leaves you a nice little channel to do your filler work.It is confined to about a three inch wide area(between points a and b in the orange car photo. If you seam it down the side you will end up with filler down the whole side of the car which can becaome a real nightmare..
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Over the top i overlapped it about a quarter inch and welded it solid.Down the side was 100% butt welded solid. Over the top was a nicer job and easier.shoddy_F-body said:
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Are you talking about lap welding or but welding. Sorry all if I sound like I have no idea what Im talking about sometimes but if Im going to get it right I want to try ang get it right the first time if i can.
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