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Gentlemen & Ladies,
First, thank you, to all who's posts have helped refresh an old man's memory in restoring classic Camaros. Hopefully I can recipricate, with knowledge renewed, to those members who are posting questions on this site.
My scenario is this: I recently purchased my son a restorable '68 Sport Coupe for a project to rebuild together, (details later). In the course of closing the deal, the seller's wife appeared and very aggressively nagged about getting rid of all the "junk" in the driveway. We were able to obtain an untitled '67 Sport Coupe parts car for no additional cost. Well, being a purist, I cannot cut up the '67 for parts but have chosen to rebuild it. My question is this, many have offered info regarding a secondary location for a complete vin number; most of the locations suggested have resulted in a partial number being found. AZ DPS has just left my house and they cannot locate this mysterious complete secondary vin number. Is there a complete secondary vin
number? We will take all input; anything you may have heard over the years. The '68 is almost complete and the '67 will become a "Black Panther" tribute....... if we can locate the vin and re-register/re-title the car. We do promise that future posts will be less verbose. thanks!!!
johnnysalami & son
'67 Black Panther Tribute
'68 Sport Coupe
 
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On the passenger side of the upper cowl, right in front of the windshield. You may be able to see it through the cowl panel (if one is installed).

The second is underneath the heater box that is bolted to the firewall, directly below where the blower motor is mounted through the firewall. Sort of inside the passenger side fender.

The partial VIN stampings in those two places may be upside down.
Take a look at The Camaro Research Groups web site.....
http://camaros.org/numbers.shtml#PartialVIN
 
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None of these location show a complete Vin number they only show the numbers like this 7L123456. They do not include the first 5 numbers.
 
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To sum it all up, there are only 5 locations where a VIN/Partial VIN are located on a 67.
1) Full VIN: Front of driver's side door jamb.
2) Partial: Under the cowl on the passenger side (can be seen through cowl venting with a good flashlight.
3) Partial: Underneath the blower motor box (heater/AC box) inside the passenger front fender ON the firewall.
4) Partial: On the front of the passenger side deck on the original engine that came in the car. (Note, does not apply to all engines).
5) Partial: On the original transmission that came in the car.

There are NO other partial or full VINs located anywhere other than the above locations on a first gen. Camaro.

You can however figure out what the first five numbers were on the car from the options on the car. The first 2 numbers are 12 on every first gen. Camaro. Let's pretend your partial VIN is 7N144817. So, that gives us 12xxx7N144817. The 4th and 5th numbers will either be a 37(coupe) or 67(convertible) which should be an easy visual check of the car to know what it is :) . So we're at 12x377N144817 now. The 3rd digit is a little harder if the car does not have the original drivetrain in it. This number is going to be either a 3 or a 4, depending on if it was a 6cyl. (3) or an 8cyl. (4). If it still has the original 327 in it with the correct (matches other hidden VINs) partial VIN on the deck (note not all 327s got partial VINs stamped on them), then you know the number should be a 4, which would make your complete VIN 124377N144817. More information would be needed on things in the car if the original engine is gone to determine if it came with a 6 or 8 cyl.
 
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also, on my 69, i have a sereis of numbers on the passanger side of my rear dash, near the corner...samped, from the underside..havent checked what the numbers are.

also on one of the 68's we de-paneld, i found the cowl vin stamp, in the middle closer to the driver side..

just say'n
 
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Actually you didn't. You said full VIN on front of driver's side door jamb. Which sounds a little confusing and nothing like "dash". Others said there would be partial VIN's elsewhere. My post was an attempt to summarize for johnnysalami and eliminate confusion for him. Stop overreacting.
 
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It's not on the dash....this is a 67 he's talking about. Please read the original post. 68s and 69s, have the full VIN on the dash, not 67s. Who's confusing him now?

To top it off, in my last post, I didn't even realize you said dash, so my comment "we said that" was incorrect, I should have just said, "Sorry, but you're wrong".

We're all here trying to help people out and there are times that I am wrong too if I'm the first to answer a question for someone and usually folks are quick to correct me and I don't mind it one bit. But before I'll correct anyone else, I try to make darn sure I'm right.
 
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Jim, my response wasn't about the information being helpful or not. My response was about someone correcting me, and telling me to "stop overreacting", which is insulting to begin with, and their correction being wrong in the first place. If you want to call it a cat fight, hence implying some type of feminine aspect towards either of us, you're insult doesn't help the issue either. If you're post is an attempt at toning down a thread, try doing it next time without insults yourself. Have a good day.
 
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I'm ending this right here. You were being childish to begin with by saying, "We said that..." There is no mature, helpful reason for posting that, no matter how you'll try to rationalize it. People very frequently reinforce what others have said in the same post. They often say, "Ditto", or "What he said", or "Yup", and similar affirmations. Do you take umbrage with every instance this occurs? If you do, you're spending alot of your life typing over some rather silly minutia. It's odd that this would offend you. It appears that your self esteem is tied up in always being right about camaros. While I was wrong about the VIN location on the 67 (thanks for the correction), you should have said that when you had the opportunity. It seems, however, that you couldn't resist the chance to show everyone on the board what a big man you are. Instead of correcting me in a civil and rational manner, you chose to be a wise a**, which is a clear signal that you care more about taking cheap shots at people that you'll never meet instead of correcting misinformation or responding to perceived insults. If that was your intention, you would have done it when you had the chance, which was after my first post. Incidentally, I occassionally receive a message when I log on about not posting in awhile which encourages me to participate. You win, stud. I'll be sure to steer clear of this place in the future. Enjoy. I apologize to all others if I offended you in any way or gave out bad information.
 
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Well let's all just have a bad day. Did you not read this in my previous post?
clwilcox33 said:
We're all here trying to help people out and there are times that I am wrong too if I'm the first to answer a question for someone and usually folks are quick to correct me and I don't mind it one bit.
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I'm wrong plenty, and I get corrected, and I don't throw a hissy fit over it. Try reading back through a couple thousand posts of mine and see if I've had more than one disagreement with anyone on this board. I haven't. 10 to 1 my posts are trying to help people out versus asking for help. My first comment indeed was sarcastic, and I'll admit it wasn't truly necessary regardless. You said you don't come around here often. If you did, and got to know folks here better including me, I don't think you would have taken my comment so seriously and made the "stop overreacting" comment; which I'll admit, I took too personnal. (The worst part about text conversations is you can't see "how" someone is talking)
cudaman said:
I'll be sure to steer clear of this place in the future. Enjoy.
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The internet is a huge place where people meet from all walks of life with different opinions, personalities, and ideas. We're not always going to agree and sometimes we'll even just get downright ugly towards each other. But don't do the site the disservice of no longer coming here and bringing your unique personality, opinions, and experience with you on account of one dissagreement with one individual, including myself. Because I'd still buy you a beer if we ever met.
 
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