Rims over 15", low profile tires,etc. Anybody have any others?
1st Gen. Bugs
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68 Base Camaro, 355 Offy crossram, Richmond Street close ratio 5 spd, 92K SoCal car
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Everything Keith said plus I'd add, the wrong emblems or emblems installed in the wrong location on the car. I've walked away from buying many nicely restored cars because the emblems were installed in the wrong location or they'd been cloned and in doing so the owners had drilled the new sheet metal to install the clone badging. Like someone said you can do whatever you want it's your car, but when it comes time to sell it don't be surprised when someone's disappointed that you ruined otherwise nice sheet metal during your clone job.
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And my big one is "oil leaks":yes:
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Poor stripe placement. And a 67 Bumble Bee stripe on a 69 just don't look right IMO. :noway:
How about the Team Camaro sticker?
Kevin...When I started searching for a 69' I was certain I wanted a RS/SS, 396 4spd. Not because it was original, but just because I liked the "package" so to speak. They were fairly hard to find and the pricing was prohibitive for me. I ended up buying the "best Camaro I could for the most money I could afford", which ended up being a Z "clone". After I joined this site I started realizing how touchy the subject of clones/tributes was with some members, and I came to understand viewpoints from all sides. I guess if I paid 60K for my Z...and my neighbor had a Z clone he paid 20K for...that people still drooled over...I'd probably feel a little cheated in some way. But I'm not going to get into possible explanations or scenarios for what irks some 1st Gen owners about such things right now.
My car started life as a 6cyl and is an X44 body. The way I see it, most COPOs were made using X44 bodies (I'm aware of several other bodies being used), and beside obvious "appearance" and "performance" options that were added to X44 bodies to make them the rare COPO cars, they are the same basic foundation...or at least, body. Same body, same sheet metal, both made by GM, both made in the same years. And let's face it, if a guy has a "real" SS and then changes say, front & rear suspension to improve 38yr old technology, let alone replacing or rebuilding the original tired engine or drivetrain, he no longer has an "SS". To me, as an example, an "SS" is the car that came off the assembly line and has never been altered, minus maybe changing brake shoes, batteries, and tires. But maybe I shouldn't even have allowed for even the tires or battery? After all, if the replacement tires weren't made in 69', doesn't that ruin something pristine?
OK, please, nobody jump on me for the extreme examples. I'm simply trying to point out that originality is either a black and white thing...or it's not. And if there's some latitude, where we each draw the line with that latitude becomes quite cloudy, as evidenced in hundreds of threads in this very site.
Basically, a RS is an appearance package...and a SS is a "performance" package. If I buy a home called the "Charleston" that is built by the great "Waldo Smith", but I saved money by not opting for Waldo's expensive glass front door ...and then buy the exact same door at Home Depot and install it myself, do I no longer own a Charleston...built by Waldo Smith? What If I opted for the cheap furnace and A/C unit, so I could replace it with the same units Lowes sells and that Waldo charges 10x more for? Admittedly, not the greatest analogy, but I hope it helps gets my point across.
And then you have "collector" and "owner" mentalities that divide many of us on this issue. I'm relatively certain that my Z/28 clone handles 10x better than any original Z/28. Beside suspension changes many of us have made (including lowering, different spring rates, beefier anti-sway bars, 3rd gen PS, shocks etc..), lower profile rubber on wider wheels provide for control that's far superior to that of any stock Camaro from the 60's. But to a collector, these changes would be considered vandalism, lol. And rightly so, to someone whose sole reason to own and love the 1st gen Camaro is purely....um..purism.
To me, you just have to decide what you want your car for. Trophy? Trailer Queen? Daily driver? Weekend warrior? Track star? I figure that once you decide this, you can do whatever the hell you want to your car, and it's nobody's business. The sales arena becomes a nightmare of its own, but that's for another day
Well stated and hit on all good points! The original cars are super however hard to find and cost 10 times more that the same one that has some changes. To me....a pet peve would be not owning a Camaro, other than that, its all good
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Only two things I hate: People who are intolerant of other people's Camaros...and the Dutch
Sorry, twist on an Austin Powers quote. I don't really hate the Dutch
Sorry, twist on an Austin Powers quote. I don't really hate the Dutch
How About Spending Hours At A Swap Meet With Limited Funds . Finding The Correct Date Coded Exhaust Manifolds For Your Car , Takling With The Vendor For A Price And Have Someone Else Overhear Your Conversation And Saying I Bet I Could Get A Lot For Them On E-Bay And Buying Them From Under You Because They Had Unlimited Funds .
Basically Pet Peeve People Buying Our Camaro's And Parts Not For The Love Of The Car But Just To Turn A Buck .
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Basically Pet Peeve People Buying Our Camaro's And Parts Not For The Love Of The Car But Just To Turn A Buck .
Ben
Well, ok except for that one.How about the Team Camaro sticker?
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