Fake tag

 

Are you saying so because of the X and D80 codes shouldn't be there or for other reasons?

 

Way Obvious Fake tag. This car is too early for X code.

 

I understand that. But if the x code and d80 was not there would it still look to be fake? Could it be a real tag with the codes added?

 

But if the x code and d80 was not there would it still look to be fake?

Yes.

Could it be a real tag with the codes added?

No.

 

Jonesy / RAD

What is the latest November 1969 car built in database? Are there any 11D? Just curious.

Thanks.

 

Don't believe there are any 11D cars from Nov. 69. Of course, lots from Nov. 68, which this particular car is.

 

Could you get a clock with tach and gages in 69?

I'm a 67 junkie and know (or at least I seem to recall) that in 67 you could get either the gauge package or a clock but not both and in 68 you could get a tic-tok-tach but I don't know about 69....

Edit: I forgot that there is a clock in the gage package in 67 (my car has been apart for years)....

 

Clock came with the console mounted guages and tach. Could also be ordered alone without the guage package.

 

I think that the latest cars are all 11a, I have one and my serial # starts with 7

 

Don't believe there are any 11D cars from Nov. 69. Of course, lots from Nov. 68, which this particular car is.

Thanks for replies, it just made me curious about last week in 69 that they were made that is recorded. It is a nice looking car but now it's in question.

 

11A, but this VIN suggests it was built in Nov 68. This tag was repoped back before the repoppers made adjustments. There are certain characteristics of this tag that set it off and it doesnt matter what info is on it.

 

I sent him a question about the D80 code and got this answer:

I do not know when tag was changed. Bought car over a year ago because it was an excellent restoration well worth the 69k I paid and it was an excellent opposite to my JL8. Only reason selling is to buy a convertible I found. Numbers do match, but I bought the car for what it is not for what it might be.

So maybe he bought it with the fake tag and didn't know it was fake, bad for him...

Jan

 

what should the casting number on the engine be ??

 

I don't believe the guy had any idea the tag had been changed when he bought it.

 

tag in question:

 

My early Z body tag and vin below on a 12A non x code car below. Delivery date 12/26/68

 

For future search:

VIN 124379N548055

Tag (posted above);
69 12437 NOR188552
713 50 50
11D X33D80

 

My 11D RS/Z no X was vin 549751. Could be real, someone screwed it up with a fake tag to get the codes?

 

So what if the fellow bought it with that tag and didnt know it was bad. Now he knows its bad so does that give him the green light to rip some one else off? This crap has to come to an end. I hope the buyer is sent to these posts.

 

So what if the fellow bought it with that tag and didnt know it was bad. Now he knows its bad so does that give him the green light to rip some one else off? This crap has to come to an end. I hope the buyer is sent to these posts.

I guess he feels he has the green light because he has known for a few days now that the tag is fake and the spare tire is wrong among other things. The auction ends later today and is nearing $60K but has not bothered to change the listing.

This part of the auction may come back to haunt him "THIS AUCTION IS REAL AND IF WINNING BIDDER IS NOT TOTALLY DELIGHTED WITH THIS EXTREMELY RARE CAR THEY CAN WALK AWAY WITH NO OBLIGATION."

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My 1969 Z is an (11D) of 68 car also. Small tag NO X codes! Our VIN's are real close.

 

I bet this car came out of the same collection as xramcamaro2 car but he had the balls to face up to the situation like a man and say his car is now a clone and lose over 1/2 of what he paid just so he would keep the hobby clean. I know of these high end fellows cleaning out their bogus cars with bogus paper work and if I get pissed off enough, I will post their names right here so everyone can see. I had enough of this expensive couterfeit crap!!!!

 

I had enough of this expensive couterfeit crap!!!!

It seems like this is in EVERY hobby or interest I have. From fake cars to fake vintage musical instruments to just about ANYTHING of value. Technology has really enabled this problem to grow because, I believe in part, things can be replicated so well with modern CNC machines.

I'm at the point where I just want something to drive and look a certain way, with the colors and options I like... but I am too afraid to pursue anything "real" for fear of it NOT being real when discovering it later and then of course losing money down the road.

And repro parts keep getting better. One day a cowl tag will mean nothing when they are eventually able to replicate them 100% to perfect detail.

 

It's a fake tag!

Jerry

 

No, I have respect for the xram man and would'nt want to jepordize his law suite.

 

I have more data on this car. NG!!!

Jerry

 

And somebody paid 60k for it! :sad:

 

I told that fellow through the auction to email or call you and ask but he told me to leave him alone, he had more serious buyers.

 

It's certainly a very nicely restored Camaro, regardless of whatever it may be! If it was a very-nicely done clone car, my guess is it would be worth roughly half of what it sold for. Average condition or not-as-accurate clones seem to be selling for about $20K right now, but ones that are really well done are in the $25K-$30K-ish range. I know the question wasn't asked directly to me, but throwing in my 2cents regardless.

 

Well, that makes me feel a little better about selling mine if I have too. 60K!