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2nd gen subframe in a 1st gen F body.....

20K views 15 replies 11 participants last post by  markie1969  
#1 ·
I've done the searching and read thru the different posts, I can see where this adaptation would not be very difficult, but wanted opinions on what would be the benefits.

1) you gain front steer, is this something that much more desireable compared to rear steer? If so why?

2) I know you get the opportunity to have larger brakes, does the camber have better geometry?

3) What are the pros?

4) What are the cons?

Trying to determine if I should fit one of these, or mod my stock rear steer unit. I already have a front steer R@P from my donor 1995 LT1 with T56
 
#2 ·
the second gen suspension setup is light years ahead of the first gen setup. most everything that is done to a first gen suspension- taller spindles and/or the Guldstrand mod- are done to make the suspension act more like the second gen setup. and it is really easy to put bigger brakes on it- the 77-96 HD Caprice spindles with the 12" brakes are a bolt on deal.
i don't think that there is any real advantage to front steer vs rear steer, other than more room for headers and more oil pan clearance.
 
#4 ·
actually, it has been done- and i think it's just a simple matter of moving some body mounting brackets and lengthening the steering shaft.
and, you know, abotu a thousand other minor things...
someday, when i find another Nova, i'm gonna try swapping a second gen Camaro sub under it just to see how hard it is to do.
 
#12 ·
hey, i like the second gens, too. i like them better than the first gens, actually. especially the later second gens after they went to the better aero package.
but there are a LOT of them in junkyards just rotting away, and if anyone wants a cheap way to put a better front suspension under a 67-69 Camaro or 68-74 nova, they are a great place to start..
hmmm.. i wonder if there's any market in selling converted second gen subframes- there seems to be a market for aftermarket front clips that cost $5k or more, so a $1k bolt in subframe might actually sell..
 
#16 ·
Hello, I saw some posts on the possibility of using a 2nd gen frame for a first gen Camaro. I have a 1980 indy pace car trans am and I own a complete second car that has all the parts and a good frame and I also have an extra set of the front and rear tube suspension with adjustable coils etc so I am looking around to see if anyone has done the swop to a second gen Camaro or in my case a 67 firebird swopped to the top of the line second gen frame. If you or anyone has done this and can give me some advice I would really appreciate it.