Re: 69' Z28 Engine Partial Vin

Yes, all post 68 engines were stamped with a Partial VIN.
69's could be stamped in two (2) locations - look here for a write-up and information on finding it - http://www.camaros.org/drivetrain.shtml#PadStamps

 

Re: 69' Z28 Engine Partial Vin

Panhead57

What is the casting date on the block and what month was the car assembled?

 

Be extremely careful not to jack up the existing stamping looking for it!! I've taken some dark grease and wiped it across the casted area at the stamping with some success. Most of the time the stamping is very difficult to see down in that area.

If it's the original engine it will have the partial VIN stamped on it unless it's been decked.

 

http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee506/Panhead57/EngineDateCode-maybe.jpg


The date on cowl tag is "3E" and on Protecto Plate is "4". Is the above a picture of the engine casting date? If not, where can I find it?

Below is the engine casting number:

http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee506/Panhead57/Block.jpg

Below is the engine code:

http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee506/Panhead57/Picture016Large.jpg

 

http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee506/Panhead57/EngineDateCode-maybe.jpg


The date on cowl tag is "3E" and on Protecto Plate is "4". Is this a picture of the engine casting date? Appears to be:

9
3B

Then below it is

120 N

If this is not it, where can I find casting date.

Casting date will be behind the cylinder head parallel to where the bell housing attaches to the block, passenger side. Two screw head looking things are on each end. Ex: *B69*

 

To me it looks like the stamp reads V0525DZ (May 25th) or maybe it's a 03/25 (March 25th) but hard to tell, maybe someone can chime in and suggest if this is an original stamping. The partial vin will be located on the oil filter boss as noted in the above link by John. Looks like you are trying to confirm if this was the original engine for the car and if that is an 05/25 with a build date of 03E there might be a disconnect. It's not uncommon for these cars to run a second or third engine, most folks don't even look at these dates...just get something close to the build date and sell the car as a "period" correct engine.

 

We are going to need a better picture of the engine code stamp. Try using some lacquer thinner on a rag and use a scotch brite pad. Do NOT use anything abrasive.

 

Yes, I am trying to determine if this is the original engine. If the Engine Code is V0325-DZ it would match the Protecto Plate. I would like to find the engine build date as I have heard the engine codes are sometimes re-stamped.

Here is another picture of the engine code. Unfortunately, it has a scratch through it.

http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee506/Panhead57/dz.jpg

 

The engine build date is part of the stamping on the pad as pictured..

 

I am getting confused and probably confusing everyone else. I should have said I would like to find the "casting date" on the engine block. I am assuming the casting date should be earlier than the "0325" build date which is part of the engine code?

 

Casting date is back on the bellhousing flange, back of the block, below the distributor on passenger side. Hard to see. You will need to have your head near the firewall and look straight down.

Already stated above, but casting date will probably look like B 15 9 or similar.

 

BTW: My 3E Z has a 3-24 deck stamp. So its in the right range.

 

Don, I noticed your engine, which was built 1 day before mine, does not have the partial vin code next to the deck stamp. Does yours have a partial vin next to the oil filter? Also, what was your casting date - I would expect mine to be similar when I can finally get to it.

 

I would really like to see that stamping cleaned up, thinner or something. It looks like the block was decked, and they stopped as they were hitting the numbers,. the 10-12
inch circle looks like it was being decked?

 

Found this picture. Any idea what this code is?

 

Code for the rear housing, C49 (March 4th, 1969)
Matches your build date nicely!!
We will help you with the block casting date as soon as you can post a picture of it.
Should be around C199

 

Are you playing games???

That looks like a casting date from a rear axle.

Do you have the engine to look at or not???

 

I am out of the country on business and the car is stored in Houston at a location where I also store some other cars. I bought it sight unseen on the recommendation of a friend. I am trying to get that same friend to go by the storage location to get a pic of the block casting date and partial vin. I had asked for these previously but don't think he knew where to find them.

The transmission matches perfectly, including a partial vin on the tranny. Has correct carb, intake & exhaust manifolds, etc.

Only question is whether or not it is a matching engine. Will post pictures when I receive them from my friend.

 

Have your friend use a small 2"x21/2" mirror and plant himself as far up the passenger fender as he can. The mirror goes down the back of the block right beside the distributor. Use a good light also and the alfa/numeric number is down about 3" from the top of the block.

 

My vin is next to the oil filter boss. I'll check my block casting date this weekend.

 

http:
//www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=7806.0

this may help you....

 

Is the block casting date near a freeze plug?

 

Behind the distributor looking straight down the firewall, need to shine a lamp down there...

 

sorry double post tried to add a picture... hmmm link not working

 

This is the casting number your looking for, off my V0319DZ block

 

Metal Man - thank you very much for the picture. I will forward this to my friend and see if he can take one of my car.

 

The guy has had a ton of excellent suggestions thrown his way and he can be held by the hand only so long. Lets everyone give him a chance to "GET ER DONE".

 

Everyone on this site has offered good suggestions and they are much appreciated. My friend should be able to find the casting date and partial vin with the information provided.

I am trying to get Jerry MacNeish to inspect the car in May when he has some other inspections to do in the area and was hoping to know more about the engine before then.