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An offer I can't refuse

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#1 ·
A good friend of mine called last night and made an offer to buy my Camaro "as is". He and his partner bought a 68 and plan to install a C-5 front and rear suspension as well as an LS-2. They decided to use a 69 Camaro and he wants mine. The offer price is right and I am considering it. While I have been at this car for 10 years and it is not finished yet, I am looking at other "needs" in the future. I just don't seem to have the time and $$ required to finish this car and I know if I sell to Rick, he will do a fine job and take it to the next level. He says it will be a show car and I can belive him, since he has done a few. So, for now, a consideration. Just another "thing" to pile on at this time. By the way, my new garage........er....a......kitchen is coming along nicely.
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#3 ·
I wouldn't sell it. I would give anything for mine to be at the stage yours is at.
I realize I am not in your shoes or can make the decision for you but I think you would regret it later. You have a lot of time invested in it and it is really looking great. Definately think it through.
 
#4 ·
tell your friends that for a "modest fee" you'll LET them install all their parts into your 69. you retain full ownership and privileges and they can come over and look at it anytime they want, within reason. you've come way too far to let it go now.

in the nearly 24 years i've been "working" on mine i've had it for sale twice. i thank the powers that be that nobody would come up with the reasonable amount i wanted for it. this winter i get it painted and next summer she'll be finished. i will never sell mine. it goes straight to my son if anything happens to me.

be patient, that's all i can say. and, someday you'll be able to finish it.
 
#5 ·
Codi said:
The offer price is right and I am considering it. While I have been at this car for 10 years and it is not finished yet, I am looking at other "needs" in the future. I just don't seem to have the time and $$ required to finish this car and I know if I sell to Rick, he will do a fine job and take it to the next level. /QUOTE]

Reads as if you've made up your mind. One does have to look at the whole picture. You are not getting any younger and the days are going by faster.

My wife asked me if I were to sell mine, would I buy another to fix? I answered "No" The next one I buy will be done so as I can drive the damn thing without fixing it first.

I do like the idea mentioned by run269 of sole ownership and they fix it. I would stipulate they would show it and when in town, I'd drive it, maybe, depending on how it would look. This way, the work gets done, somebody else does the work, and you enjoy it, along with a friend whom you trust.
 
#8 ·
codi,

dont do it. i agree with the guys above. plus, what we do for a living, these thinks help us keep a bit of our sanity aside from our families. i know if i sold mine, i would take the money and pay bills, go on vacation, etc and when the money is gone, i would not have a camaro. but its all up to you and your finanacial needs.

angel
 
#10 ·
I agree with Kausboy...I have a "basket case" 69 RS right now, but the car I had before that was a 65 Shelby Cobra 427SC (a real one...not a kit). The car before that was a 59 convertible Vette. They were all nice cars and a blast to drive, but I had more fun wrenching on them than I did driving them. Of course, my infant son will think I'm nuts for selling any of them when I show him the old pictures of my previous hot rods!
 
#12 ·
While you sound resigned to selling, IMO you shouldn't. If you don't have the time and $$ to do it now, are you going to have the $$ to get one later(done or otherwise)? If you don't need the money from the sale, nothing wrong IMO to let it sit. My 69 is sitting tucked away for a future build and I have been in your position. I will not sell it because I know myself well enough that it would have to be replaced sooner or later. I was looking at done cars the other day and I'll tell you what, they aren't getting any cheaper. Even if you just let it sit, you will be able to get more for it later. Heck some car guys will probably still buy these even if gas was $50 a gallon(I will ;)). Prices won't be going down anytime soon IMO. Hold on to it and enjoy it when you can.....
Good Luck :)
 
#15 ·
It looks like you are pretty close to having a finished project. If I were you I'd just shelve it until I have the time and money to complete it. If you sell it to your buddy you will have to look at "what could have been" for the rest of your miserable life. And trust me you will feel miserable every time you see that car.
 
#16 · (Edited)
Thanks for the input and support. As for ChevyThunder, when you get here, I will have a new kitchen and pictures. I have been thinking about this for several months now. Rick made me an offer earlier this year and I just let it slide. Now, he is serious. Im getting tired of the car (my car) being the target of my wife's rants. I get bitched at for NOT working on it and bitched at for working on it. Just the other day she complained she can't walk through the garage because I have the kitchen furniture and stuff in the garage "along with that damn car". While I have not made a decision yet, I am really leaning towards letting it go. My reasons are (besides getting the nag to stop for awhile) LB is almost 16 and I am pretty sure my wife will demand we get him his own car (he is in no hurry); after ten years, I am not sure I can finish it the way I want it; Rick has plans to take it to a greater level than I ever could. We spoke last year of a C-4 conversion, LS-6, 6 speed, etc. I don't have the major $$ for this and will never have the major $$ for this. He does. Also, I can get most of my investment out of it. He is not interested in the drivetrain stuff I have for it, just the rolling body and interior. Now, with this in mind, IF I let it go, I will have some nice "cabbage" in my hand. What to do with it? My wife will want to get her grubby little hands on it, so, I will be the bastard for being tight and not thinking "of anyone else but me". Yep. My frikken garage is now in the house with all new cabinets, countertop, appliances, and flooring. I guess I will just end up trading one bitch target for another. I am also considering just stashing it for LB and Ricochet when it is college time. At any rate, I have a decision to make. Not an easy one. It's like letting your kids move on.
I went back after posting and re-read some replys. I am not selling due to financial issues. That is fine. As it was said, there will always be another car. With Rick involved, I know the car is in good hands and I have access to it. His work is impecable and what he could do for my car would be alot more than what I could do. So, do I let my "kid" go to junior college or send him to an ivy league school? With Rick, some day we all may be reading about it in a car magazine. He has done it before.
 
#18 ·
See if you can find somewhere to store it for a while so you and your wife don't have to see it or the parts. Then if you get the urge to work on it you'll still have it. Plus, it's only going to go up in value and if you did want to replace it, it will cost a lot more. But bottom line is that it's just a car and if selling it puts your family in a better situation, then that is really what you should do.
 
#20 ·
The decision has been made and the proper phone call placed. Thanks for all of your support and input. What? What was the decision you ask? :p

THE CAR STAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's like one of my children and I couldn't let it go. I also figured if I did sell it to Rick, my wife would be :angry: to get her hands on the money from the car. SO! The car may take me another ten years, but it will be mine. In speaking to Rick, he was happy I decided to keep the car and finish it myself. He is looking for a 69 Camaro that needs little more than cosmetic work. He will be installing a handbuilt subframe with C-5 front suspension, LS-2, 6 speed, and either a C-5 rear or C-4. He is also looking at the rear from Unique Performance. Leather custom made interior, Vintage Air, and a good sound system. He and I discussed doing this to my car last year. I just don't have that kind of $$ for a project. I guess he has the 100K to do the car and I know from his other works it will be a fine piece. :beers: :beers:
 
#26 ·
Codi said:
Thanks for the input and support. As for ChevyThunder, when you get here, I will have a new kitchen and pictures. I have been thinking about this for several months now. Rick made me an offer earlier this year and I just let it slide. Now, he is serious. Im getting tired of the car (my car) being the target of my wife's rants. I get bitched at for NOT working on it and bitched at for working on it. Just the other day she complained she can't walk through the garage because I have the kitchen furniture and stuff in the garage "along with that damn car". While I have not made a decision yet, I am really leaning towards letting it go. My reasons are (besides getting the nag to stop for awhile) LB is almost 16 and I am pretty sure my wife will demand we get him his own car (he is in no hurry); after ten years, I am not sure I can finish it the way I want it; Rick has plans to take it to a greater level than I ever could. We spoke last year of a C-4 conversion, LS-6, 6 speed, etc. I don't have the major $$ for this and will never have the major $$ for this. He does. Also, I can get most of my investment out of it. He is not interested in the drivetrain stuff I have for it, just the rolling body and interior. Now, with this in mind, IF I let it go, I will have some nice "cabbage" in my hand. What to do with it? My wife will want to get her grubby little hands on it, so, I will be the bastard for being tight and not thinking "of anyone else but me". Yep. My frikken garage is now in the house with all new cabinets, countertop, appliances, and flooring. I guess I will just end up trading one bitch target for another. I am also considering just stashing it for LB and Ricochet when it is college time. At any rate, I have a decision to make. Not an easy one. It's like letting your kids move on.
I went back after posting and re-read some replys. I am not selling due to financial issues. That is fine. As it was said, there will always be another car. With Rick involved, I know the car is in good hands and I have access to it. His work is impecable and what he could do for my car would be alot more than what I could do. So, do I let my "kid" go to junior college or send him to an ivy league school? With Rick, some day we all may be reading about it in a car magazine. He has done it before.
Sounds like I'm in the same situation with my wife, damned if I do, damned if I don't. I've been talking about starting an eBay business for the past several years, and now she says the only way we could afford to do it, is to sell the car and put the money into inventory for a business. But I know what would happen if I sold the car, the money would slowly but surely be spent on other things, and before it's all said and done, I would be left with about 5K to "play" with, which won't buy jack as far as a business inventory, and won't get me very far into a new project either. That's why I've listed my car for sale, but haven't really gone out of my way to sell it. I could slap it on eBay and sell it for good money, but that would be my last resort. I'm just hoping somebody comes along with an offer I can't refuse, but so far, all I've heard from is car dealerships, who of course want to buy it for nothing, or kids who obviously don't have the money and are just wasting my time anyway. Then there are the people that ask you right off the bat if you'll take half of what your asking for it, to those people I just politely say no thanks and hang up. Honestly, I love my car, and really don't want to sell it, and I know I couldn't replace it in 5 years for what I have into it, and in 10 years, it'll probably be worth some SERIOUS money, but when the day is done, I need to stay married also, I've already been divorced one, and I'm not going through that HE$$ again, not if I can avoid it. I think you made the right decision Codi, I just hope you can live with the grief from your wife, but I feel your pain man, I'm right there with ya!!!!!!!!