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Having trouble decoding dash vin plate

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#1 ·
I have a 1969 Hardtop Coupe. I’ve visited just about every vin decoder on the web, but I am stuck decoding the 6th position which is usally the production year.

Mine is as follows: 12437JC(xxxxxx) I left the numerical number of the vehicle out on purpose.

What does the JC stand for?
The matching vin is on the Cowl Plate as well.

Thank you in advance!!!!!
 
#2 ·
The original vin should be 124379L or 124379N assuming it was a V8 car from the factory.
L for Los Angeles (actually Van Nuys) or N for Norwood, OH.
Post a pic of the vin plate. Feel free to cover up the last four digits if you want. Personally, I don't see an issue postin the whole vin. Mine is 124379N671122. Anytime the car is parked, someone walking by can read it, as it is in plain view.
 
#4 ·
Congrats Bubba! You have a 69 Camaro built in Caracas Venezuela. Any pics? I wonder how your Camaro made it to the Midwest, should be an interesting story there!

From CRG Camaro Foreign Assembly Plants
Caracas, Venezuela
This South American plant was located at La Yaguara in Caracas, Venezuela and started production in 1948. They produced Camaros and Novas in 1968 and 1969 and also produced Malibus (starting about 1969), full-size cars, and pickups. From the VIN's observed, it appears that the total plant production was between 10,000 and 13,000 annually. There is no breakdown of how many Camaros were built.
The 68 Camaros used the L30 (327/275hp) engine while the 69's use the LM1 350 which was replaced by the L65 350 during the model year. The cars were pretty well optioned with Rally Sport, power steering, power brakes, console, clock, and HD radiator. There was a choice between automatic and 4-speed manual transmissions. It's believed the cars with automatics also had AC and power windows. Color combinations were apparently somewhat limited - dark blue with blue standard interior and white with red standard interior were the most common ones.
The VIN was stamped on a plate attached to the dash in the normal location. The format used the U.S. VIN format but with the year indicated by a letter: H = 1968, J=1969. The plant code was C for Caracas (note that C was also used for the Southgate, CA assembly plant).
Late-69 Caracas Camaros have been found with a K (K = 1970) VIN. This would indicate that the plant was notified that the 1969 body style was going to be used for 1970. That plan changed, 1969 production was instead extended for 4 months, but the plant, for whatever reason, kept with the original plan.
The firewall tag used a U.S. trim tag. In 68, the tag was the earlier "Magic Mirror" design (also used on 68 export cars) that did not have the U.S. conformance statement on it. In 69, the tag was the normal 69 tag, but without the U.S. conformance statement stamped on it. The firewall tag was stamped with the VIN (unlike U.S. cars) and the interior and exterior color codes. Whereas the interior codes used the normal U.S. format, the exterior color codes used several different formats with six, eight, or nine digits. Some resemble DuPont paint codes, but only one observed code matches a known DuPont code.
 
#6 · (Edited)
Bubba, Pics are not showing up, please use the The "insert image" to the left of the Camera Icon on bottom of edit panel to insert pics from your hard drive. K

Update: Pics look good now, I see the VIN. Any pics of the trim tag and whole car? :) CRG might want your pics for future reference on that report. And showing the VIN is not going to compromise anything, but will help date the car's build. The Trim tag should have interior and paint codes. Not many Foreign built Camaros in the US so info is scarce, so any additions to the CRG DB about your Camaro is much appreciated!
 
#8 ·
Was all serious! Since this Camaro is rare (not sure if that equal more $$), you should document what you have with CRG. They would be very interested! (not kidding).

Does your Camaro match this description in the article? 350 ci, RS PS, PB and other options? Manual or Auto? Blue/blue or white/red?

the 69's use the LM1 350 which was replaced by the L65 350 during the model year. The cars were pretty well optioned with Rally Sport, power steering, power brakes, console, clock, and HD radiator. There was a choice between automatic and 4-speed manual transmissions. It's believed the cars with automatics also had AC and power windows. Color combinations were apparently somewhat limited - dark blue with blue standard interior and white with red standard interior were the most common ones.
 
#9 ·
Unfortunately this camaro is repainted Lemans Blue with black interior. The heater controls are missing and there is no heater box, the firewall is smooth. It does have electric windows. I have recently purchased it and was trying to get info on it. Thank you for finding this rare information. I really appreciate it
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268524
268525
 
#11 ·
Interesting, I never knew they built them there. It has obviously been rehabbed, looks like nicely from here. Wonder how long it has been here and how it got here. What does the title look like? Now if anybody asks you can say: I drive an import.
My wife is from Caracus.
 
#16 ·
A heater delete 69 Camaro is a rarity, something not available here in the 48 states. If the factory block off plates and dash block off are still with the car, so much the better.
 
#18 ·
Bubba, your Car had factory Air Conditioning originally and probably RS package, Auto trans and power windows.

Looks like someone put a piece of sheet metal over the firewall where the A/C suitcase used to be.

I can still see the hole for the cowl vent flap above the firewall and the center dash vent (A/C only), but that is upside down for some reason??
 
#19 ·
Cars shipped there could have originally been heater delete. Especially in that climate. You see this quite often on cars shipped to Hawaii.

But I see Kevin is more observant than I was. Car had A/C
 
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#22 ·
The fire wall is entirely smoothed even the horizontal joint. I would think heater delete would have been a block off plate. I think I see a A/C compressor but no hoses. Also the article says Auto came with A/C. Not there.
 
#21 ·
Switzerland and Philippines too
 
#32 ·
Really cool cowl tag. Some people that think they know Camaros might try to tell you that the tag is counterfeit. Now that you know some facts, you won't be dissuaded. I think some collaboration with Kurt S would benefit you both, which would ultimately benefit us all. Congratulations on owning a very unique version of a very popular car!
Brett....