I have a 67 Camaro. I'm putting in some bolt in sub frame connectors that I got from Jeg's. The kit did not come with any instructions. There where several long bolts in the hardware bag. What are these for? I got the connectors from Jeg's and I called their technical service and they just said, "I thinks it's obvious were the go, that is why there aren't any instructions." This didn't help me. I won't be buying from Jeg's any more.
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I have a 67 Camaro. I'm putting in some bolt in sub frame connectors that I got from Jeg's. The kit did not come with any instructions. There where several long bolts in the hardware bag. What are these for? I got the connectors from Jeg's and I called their technical service and they just said, "I thinks it's obvious were the go, that is why there aren't any instructions." This didn't help me. I won't be buying from Jeg's any more.
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CM, if I remember correctly,there are 4 bolts with the bars. The bars use 2 each on the front part where it goes in the frame rail.This would be between the frame bushing and the rail. The guy from Jeg's is full of it. I received instructions when I got my CE bars. They include a template on where to drill for the bolts. One suggestion is I had a friend tack weld the bars front and back instead of using the bolts. Let me know here are by e-mail if you need further help.
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I recently installed the Jeg's sub-frame connectors in my '68. (They came with instructions)
Two bolts and two standoffs (small pieces of pipe) are used on the sub-frame connecters where they connect to the front sub-frame. You must drill two 3/8" holes (aligned horizontally) through both the sub-frame and the sub-frame connectors. I had to eyeball where to drill the holes to make sure there would be enough steel around the foremost sub-frame connector hole. Then, install the bolts with the standoffs in the middle. No torque specs. were supplied.
Install the rear using the inner bolt that secures the front leaf spring bushing housing. Then drill a 3/8" hole through the rear frame channel using the hole in the sub-frame connector as a guide. Afterwards, install the bolt.
If this doesn't make sense. I have a digital camera and can send a few pictures.
Other learnings: Chamfer the outside edges of the front of the sub-frame connectors. It makes it easier to drive them into the sub-frame because they don't cause galling on the inside of the sub-frame.
Use a bottle-jack to raise the back of the sub-frame connector into place. That's because the connector contacts the floor pan.
Two bolts and two standoffs (small pieces of pipe) are used on the sub-frame connecters where they connect to the front sub-frame. You must drill two 3/8" holes (aligned horizontally) through both the sub-frame and the sub-frame connectors. I had to eyeball where to drill the holes to make sure there would be enough steel around the foremost sub-frame connector hole. Then, install the bolts with the standoffs in the middle. No torque specs. were supplied.
Install the rear using the inner bolt that secures the front leaf spring bushing housing. Then drill a 3/8" hole through the rear frame channel using the hole in the sub-frame connector as a guide. Afterwards, install the bolt.
If this doesn't make sense. I have a digital camera and can send a few pictures.
Other learnings: Chamfer the outside edges of the front of the sub-frame connectors. It makes it easier to drive them into the sub-frame because they don't cause galling on the inside of the sub-frame.
Use a bottle-jack to raise the back of the sub-frame connector into place. That's because the connector contacts the floor pan.
Hey Basscat, if you do get some good pics could you send them to me too? I'm going to be doing this soon also and most of the pics I've seen I just can't make out what I'm looking at. I'm sure after I've done it, it will be obvious. Does the rear of the SFC go on over the leaf spring bracket, ie body/bracket/SFC/bolt. And is there only one bolt holding the rear on? If so I see why everyone says to tack weld them.
Too bad on the lack of instructions and Jeg's attitude. You probably got a set that someone returned. I've gotten some pretty shabby stuff like that from them too. This tells me that for about the same price from the same place I might as well get CE. At least I should be able to call them directly with a question.
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Too bad on the lack of instructions and Jeg's attitude. You probably got a set that someone returned. I've gotten some pretty shabby stuff like that from them too. This tells me that for about the same price from the same place I might as well get CE. At least I should be able to call them directly with a question.
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Let me know how it goes. I am also going to be getting a set soon. Thanks - Barry
I'm taking an autobody course this evening (tired of dealing with low quality and high prices) so I won't be able to take pictures until tomorrow evening, but I will do it.
Can someone tell me how to post the pictures?
If it is a simple cut and paste then, no problem.
Can someone tell me how to post the pictures?
If it is a simple cut and paste then, no problem.
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To post pics, you need to first upload them to a server somewhere, like a Tripod account or similar deal. Then, all you do here at this board is encapsulate the entire URL of the pic in UBB code, specifically
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. Sorta like:
[IMG.]http://www.pics.com/car[/IMG]
only without the period after the first IMG. See the UBB code help for further detail.
BW
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[IMG.]http://www.pics.com/car[/IMG]
only without the period after the first IMG. See the UBB code help for further detail.
BW
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Winch, the rear of the SFC is held in place by the 3 bolts that hold the spring and spring housing in place.You have opening in floor, SFC,spring housing with spring. The clip nuts that hold the 3 bolts will probably break during removal.I used new clips and bolts for the installation.
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Winch,you are right on the money. If you have any problems with the SFC's when you install the springs e-mail me.I'll try to help.
Here's what I was able to get:
http://www.geocities.com/fisherck/subframe.html
I'm also trying to get the original instructions from someone else who recently installed the same connectors.
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http://www.geocities.com/fisherck/subframe.html
I'm also trying to get the original instructions from someone else who recently installed the same connectors.
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basscat, thanks for the pictures, they help out a lot.
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Whe I put mine in, I had a hell of a time aligning the SFC and the spring housing with the mounting holes. I ended up cutting the heads off of some 3" 3/8 bolts and threading them up into the frame so there were three 3" studs hanging down through the SFC, and I just slid the spring housing up and over the studs. Cut the extra off with a cut off wheel. It made it VERY easy. I haven't had a problem yet, so I don't see the problem in doing that. Maybe if I had an extra pair of hands, it wouldn't have been so bad, but the wife wanted nothing to do with getting dirty! Haha
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basscat, thanks mucho. That does help. I didn't realize the rear of the SFC had tabs that let it set off to the side of the bracket.
So one end goes into the front SF and you drill holes horizontally thru the frame and SFC on both sides and put long bolts thru both sides. And then the rear just sets off to the side and the tabs go over and attach to the same bolts as the spring bracket?
Now is that a coupe I'm guessing and what brand were those? I have a convertible which I understand takes some cutting of either the SFC or the floor brace. But I'm thinking I could make a custom connector that follows the floor out of regular tubing. That would help justify the $$ for a welder.
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So one end goes into the front SF and you drill holes horizontally thru the frame and SFC on both sides and put long bolts thru both sides. And then the rear just sets off to the side and the tabs go over and attach to the same bolts as the spring bracket?
Now is that a coupe I'm guessing and what brand were those? I have a convertible which I understand takes some cutting of either the SFC or the floor brace. But I'm thinking I could make a custom connector that follows the floor out of regular tubing. That would help justify the $$ for a welder.
Cornholio,(love that handle!!),advised to use a floor jack as a third hand while doing this to help hold the S/F/C in place front and rear while installing it.
I'm here ta say, works like a charm!!!! pdq67
PS., and use a 4.5" angle grinder to cut the heads off the three bolts after the spring-clips break and they spin... Been there, done that...
I'm here ta say, works like a charm!!!! pdq67
PS., and use a 4.5" angle grinder to cut the heads off the three bolts after the spring-clips break and they spin... Been there, done that...
Winch,
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basscat, thanks mucho. [You're welcome - this site has helped me more than I can give back.] That does help. I didn't realize the rear of the SFC had tabs that let it set off to the side of the bracket.
So one end goes into the front SF and you drill holes horizontally thru the frame and SFC on both sides and put long bolts thru both sides. [That's correct - don't forget to install the spacers to keep the SFC and frame from distorting.] And then the rear just sets off to the side and the tabs go over and attach to the same bolts as the spring bracket? [The tabs go under the spring bracket but are held in place by the appropriate spring bracket bolts. Except the one that goes through the frame channel.]
Now is that a coupe I'm guessing and what brand were those? [It is a coupe and they are from Jegs] I have a convertible which I understand takes some cutting of either the SFC or the floor brace. But I'm thinking I could make a custom connector that follows the floor out of regular tubing. That would help justify the $$ for a welder. [Sounds like a solid plan to me.]
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basscat, thanks mucho. [You're welcome - this site has helped me more than I can give back.] That does help. I didn't realize the rear of the SFC had tabs that let it set off to the side of the bracket.
So one end goes into the front SF and you drill holes horizontally thru the frame and SFC on both sides and put long bolts thru both sides. [That's correct - don't forget to install the spacers to keep the SFC and frame from distorting.] And then the rear just sets off to the side and the tabs go over and attach to the same bolts as the spring bracket? [The tabs go under the spring bracket but are held in place by the appropriate spring bracket bolts. Except the one that goes through the frame channel.]
Now is that a coupe I'm guessing and what brand were those? [It is a coupe and they are from Jegs] I have a convertible which I understand takes some cutting of either the SFC or the floor brace. But I'm thinking I could make a custom connector that follows the floor out of regular tubing. That would help justify the $$ for a welder. [Sounds like a solid plan to me.]
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