My Dad loves using this stuff. He puts in in all his cars, boat, RV, even his lawnmower. I put some in a 95 Honda I had a while back. It was stolen one nite, but recovered the next day but with 200 more miles on it. Apparently the thermostat either broke or was damaged in all commotion, so while I was driving it home from the tow yard it got HOT! The temp gauge was pegged for about half the ride home, my mechanic said the head should have warped for sure. But everything was fine, no engine damage. Not sure if it was the Zmax that protected the engine or not, but it's cheap insurance like $35 I think.

 

The temp gauge was pegged for about half the ride home,

I don't think I would drive with the temp gauge pegged, even if I had a "sure thing" date waiting for me at the destination!!

 

Snake Oil. They're still under a consent decree from the Federal Trade Commission, and violating it. Carroll Shelby's 401(k) must have tanked. :sad:

 

Snake oil is putting it lightly... any chlorinated lubericant is going to do more damage over the life span of the product than the years of abuse it will take without it.

 

I noticed recently that Carroll Shelby is no longer on their commercials.

 

Rob, I just saw a commercial last night that had Carrol Shelby in it.

They showed this stuff on an episode of Truck U and the stuff seems to really work. They placed a small eye droppers worth of it into a small hole drilled into a block of metal and it completely soaked into the block. Not just in the hole, but all the way through it. All the way to the bottom, the sides, the middle, everywhere. It's not snake oil. The molecules are so small, it actually soaks into the metal. All the way through it. True it has to be replenished, but it's still worth it, IMO.

 

Did anyone state why you would want a chemical in your engine with particles so small it would soak into the metal? I thought that additives were supposed to form a film of lubricant over the metal that was stronger than regular oil, and offer increased protection against wear or reduce friction for increased power. What would be the purpose of soaking into the metal unless it is to clean away deposits?

Keith

 

Dont play chemist with your oil. Manufacturers build oils to meet specs needed for our cars. Adding 'junk' to the oil will change the chemistry and also void the oil makers warranty.

 

All OEM manufactuers owners manuals clearly state not to add any additives to engine oil for a reason.............:clonk:..........

 

These depleted energy conserving oils of modern day do nothing for our ol' Camaros.

 

I guess if you put this stuff in your engine and it soaks through the metal, it will just eventually end up on your garge floor under your car!

At least it will go through your concrete floor too! Will not have to clean it up!

 

Have you ever heard the term 'seasoned block' or 'seasoned cast iron' cookware? Cast iron will soak in a certain amount of oil during the heating and cooling process. Any engine oil will 'season' a cast block although we use vegetable oil for our cookware.

 

OK....here we go again,just viewed another show on SPEED..Two Guys Garage with a different segment than the one on Truck-U promoting Z-max.It was very convincing as was the previous show.Also the commercials are continuing with Carrol Shelby endorsing the product.I had also heard that there might be some pending litigation regarding false claims against the company....what gives?.......

 

I forgot to mention what makes this even more interesting is that they had a sweet 69' Camaro on the dyno in the backround during most of the shooting,indirectly promoting its use in our classics,although they never actually ran the car on tape,they made sure it was noticable.....

 

Z-Max is not an oil additive. It uses the engine oil to carry the product to vital engine components. It doesn't do anything to the oil itself. It treats only the metal. It doesn't change the make up of the oil. You don't have to remove any oil to use Z-max. You simply pour it in. I added it to my engine and I have seen a drop in running temp and also a smoother idle. It takes the Z-max at least 5 or 6 hot/cold cycles to soak into the metal and since it is a consumable it has to be replenished. I have no complaints about it and it isn't "Snake Oil". It does "ABSOLUTELY NOTHING" to the oil. It only affect the metal.

 

What is the prupose of adding something like that to your oil in the first place? Synthetic oils do everything you need.

 

Reminds me of the Gut-Be-Gone. Use it for 2 minutes a day and in 2 weeks you have washboard abs. At least, that is what the infomercials say.

They wouldn't lie would they?

Chairman Mao once said "the big lie is easier to believe than the little one"



alan

 

The only reason you are adding it to your oil is so the oil can transport the Z-Max to various places in the engine. They also offer a fuel treatment and a tranny treatment. The fuel treatment is supposed to clean off the injector tips and the tranny is supposed to lower tranny temps. I don't know about those two, but I have used the engine treatment and I have noticed lower engine temps and a smoother idle. I have actually experienced some benefits from it. Now, that's not saying that everyone will, but I have.

 

I don't want a smooth idle...that's why I installed a lopey cam.

 

Not to rain on your parade Charlie but it looks like they got you hook,line and sinker...I still can't believe any acid based product can be good for any engine and that oils alone do a fine job of protecting.I just find it hard to believe that it SOAKS into the metal....They never did their fancy test on aluminum or bearing babbit material....I'm sorry but I respectfully just don't buy it:noway:....

 

colored mineral oil is all it is
says it all here
http://www.carbibles.com/additives.html

 

FTC Sues Speedway Motorsports (ZMAX)and Oil-Chem Subsidiary

http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2001/02/zmax1.shtm

 

Re: FTC Sues Speedway Motorsports (ZMAX)and Oil-Chem Subsidiary

http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2001/02/zmax1.shtm

Very interesting Dawg..I did not realize there was so much going on with the stuff....all the more reason to beware of MIRACLE products with shaky test results and just goes to show what lengths corporations will go to to make a buck from unsespecting consumers............

 

You guys are entitled to your opinions.

 

I always look at it this way, if this stuff really worked then it would be used by the OEMs or incorporated into a oil's blend of additives. Since none of these additives are used by OEMs or in a oil's blend...

 

Well the racers of old used this stuff and most of them would die by it. Like I said, you are entitled to your opinions. I have experienced benefits by using it. You may not, so don't.