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#41 ·
...as others have said, ...kudos to you for going the extra mile to reunite the engine with the car. Moreso too that whateve you get for it, ...it doesn't appear you're out to 'rake the guy over the coals'. :beers:
 
#42 ·
I guess I'll just say what I'm thinking: this guy should pay through the nose and enjoy doing it. Come on, you're turning his car into a matching numbers Z-28. His car, as it sits now, is like 50,000 non-matching Z-28s. When he buys that motor, he now gets in that, maybe 2 or 3 thousand club??? QUESTION: HOW MANY TRUE MATCHING Z'S ARE OUT THERE?? Even if it's not matching rear-end and tranny, matching motor is the gem. It's obvious Chic is nicer than I am. (I guess 12 years of negotiation with lawyers and insurance companies has made me harsh.)
 
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KevinK7 said:
...as others have said, ...kudos to you for going the extra mile to reunite the engine with the car. Moreso too that whateve you get for it, ...it doesn't appear you're out to 'rake the guy over the coals'. :beers:
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Thanks Kevin, appreciate the nice comments. And thanks to everyone else for the assistance, kind words, and support.

Now for some other good news. I will be doing another posting concerning this but the same evening I contacted the owner of the 69Z28 I also located the family that owned the 68Z28 we own back in 1972. Was unable to reach the person directly (talked to his son and wife) but just minutes ago I completed a long conversation with him. And he bought the car new :hurray: I now know where the car was purchased and he is going to send me some old pic's including when they brought their son home from the hospital when he was born. Yep, the other day was one of my more memorable moments concering cars I have and enjoy.
 
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ChevyThunder said:
Don't know why anyone would want to pic that car apart it looks.. as the kids say these days ... SICK !! Meaning bad a$$ for myself and the rest of the aged.

I think the point was that if making a car numbers matching again it would be nice if the car was still as it left the factory. Not that there is anything at all wrong with a tubbed wicked looking first gen. Personally I would love to have one.
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68camaroz28 said:
I agree that the car is sick, I mean bad a$$. :thumbsup:Can I drive it :D
But ChevyThunder made the point of what I was intending. I was afraid if the car did not have the orig. engine someone might have decided to do other things with it whereas an orig. car with born with engine probably would not do those type of changes to an orig. car.
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........understood:yes:. What bugs me is when I get comments like "He ruined that Camaro when he Pro Streeted it" or " he chopped up a perfectly good Camaro". My philosophy(sp) is "if it's a 1st Gen. Camaro, it rocks, no matter if it's Pro Street, Pro Tour, Vintage Road Racer, or bone stock. I would like to one day own another 1st Gen. Camaro,maybe a '68 in stock to resto-mod condition:yes:. I apologize if my comments caused this thread to stray off course.
 
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68camaroz28 said:
Thanks Kevin, appreciate the nice comments. And thanks to everyone else for the assistance, kind words, and support.

Now for some other good news. I will be doing another posting concerning this but the same evening I contacted the owner of the 69Z28 I also located the family that owned the 68Z28 we own back in 1972. Was unable to reach the person directly (talked to his son and wife) but just minutes ago I completed a long conversation with him. And he bought the car new :hurray: I now know where the car was purchased and he is going to send me some old pic's including when they brought their son home from the hospital when he was born. Yep, the other day was one of my more memorable moments concering cars I have and enjoy.
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Keep us informed on what happens!!!!!!!!!
 
#47 ·
Chick, you may want to let him make an offer on the engine before exposing what you want for it. He may be more generous than you think to get it back.....:yes:
 
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MD88IROC said:
Chick, you may want to let him make an offer on the engine before exposing what you want for it. He may be more generous than you think to get it back.....:yes:
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Good point!

firstgenaddict said:
The original engine will add significant value (20 k or more) to the car.
At least by the way the car is described.
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Many of you know keep up with the market more than I but the way he described the car owning it since 1981 with original paint, etc., I would tend to believe it would enhance his non X coded car by 30K. Note one of the main reasons being it is a non X coded car.
So what does everyone think? If this was in fact an excellent car with 23,000 miles how much would the orig. motor add to the value of a non X coded car. This might be interesting to review.
 
#50 ·
5k would be nice even 7,500.. but if it were me I would pay 10k , anything over that would certainly be seriously opportunistic I believe . But your point is well taken . The motor legitimizes his car as a real Z/28 .

I was lucky ... I got my original motor for one of my cars for 2500 . I would have paid 10K and would have been happy at 5k
 
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ChevyThunder said:
5k would be nice even 7,500.. but if it were me I would pay 10k , anything over that would certainly be seriously opportunistic I believe . But your point is well taken . The motor legitimizes his car as a real Z/28 .
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I agree with Van.The other thing to consider is the added value to his car only matters if he is going to sell it.He's had it for 27 years sounds like a keeper to me.
 
#52 ·
I would have to agree! To an unmodified pre x code "claimed" z28 with original paint the original motor would go a long way to removing any doubt of the cars authenticity. For this reason alone 10k is even cheap. What is the diffrence in price from a good z28 clone to a genuine matching number z28 ? A lot more than 10k! Its a shame you cant buy the car for yourself, with the dedication you have shown in tracking down the car you deserve it ! good luck!
 
#53 ·
aus67 said:
Its a shame you cant buy the car for yourself, with the dedication you have shown in tracking down the car you deserve it ! good luck!
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The current owner has had the car for 27 years and if it is original paint and nice like it is said to be he has taken very good care of it.No offense to the original poster but what about owning the original shortblock and tracking down the car makes you feel he deserves it?
 
#54 ·
68camaroz28 said:
Good point!


Many of you know keep up with the market more than I but the way he described the car owning it since 1981 with original paint, etc., I would tend to believe it would enhance his non X coded car by 30K. Note one of the main reasons being it is a non X coded car.
So what does everyone think? If this was in fact an excellent car with 23,000 miles how much would the orig. motor add to the value of a non X coded car. This might be interesting to review.
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This seems to have gone from reuniting the engine and car to how much can I stick the guy for.JMO As I stated before unless the guy wants to sell the car the increase in value is irrelevant.At this point the info to prove his car is a Z28 is on the net.Get to greedy and he may tell you to go jump in a lake.
 
#55 ·
ChevyThunder said:
5k would be nice even 7,500.. but if it were me I would pay 10k , anything over that would certainly be seriously opportunistic I believe . But your point is well taken . The motor legitimizes his car as a real Z/28 .

I was lucky ... I got my original motor for one of my cars for 2500 . I would have paid 10K and would have been happy at 5k
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He doesn't need the motor to legitimize hes car as a Z. This thread now does that. I think 10k is plenty. JMO
 
#56 ·
This discussion has come up before.

I would say throw out a fair number, or even a high one if you like, and see if he takes it. If he's willing to pay a premium, that's perfectly fine. If he's not willing to go high, I wouldn't hold it hostage in attempt to gouge the guy. From there, I would negotiate.

But look at the options. Sell it to a guy with a random car at market value, or sell it to the guy with the original car for market value?

Selling prices between the two being equal, wouldn't you rather see it go back into the original car?
 
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z10kl said:
He doesn't need the motor to legitimize hes car as a Z. This thread now does that. I think 10k is plenty. JMO
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As a guy who loves 1969 Z/28's and owns a bunch of them I respectfully disagree. This thread does not legitimize the car to the extent of having an original motor sitting in the engine bay does.Not even close. Engine owner has already stated that many people who see the car question whether or not it is a real Z . Non X code car without original engine or transmission or documentation, no the engine in the bay makes it a reality .

I do agree that 10k for the motor is plenty .
 
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67 Plum said:
This seems to have gone from reuniting the engine and car to how much can I stick the guy for.JMO As I stated before unless the guy wants to sell the car the increase in value is irrelevant.At this point the info to prove his car is a Z28 is on the net.Get to greedy and he may tell you to go jump in a lake.
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67 Plum, with due respect, can we keep this positive as I'm not trying to stick someone. My opinion was the car will be enhanced a significant amount and offered an opinion while asking what do others think the car's value will increase. I agree he has had the car a long time but length of time owning does not mean or translate to not wanting the born with engine. The tactfullness is working to have an negotiable win/win situation for both parties. I have that goal along with getting the engine back where it belongs. :beers:
 
#59 ·
I feel If you are thinking about anything over 5k you are robbing the guy. The trouble with this hobby is that it is full of thieves and robbers. Sell it to him at a fair price move on and feel good about it.
 
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#60 ·
I agree with green Z. It is not always about the money. I would be very offended if you offered me the block for 10 k. Its blatent greed. Offer him a fair price and feel good about reuniting the car with the original block. Do it because its a nice thing to do.
 
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