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Just curious what the proper method is to paint Z28 stripes on the cowl. If the stripes are black, what color should the inside of the cowl be. Should it be body color with overspray, or no overspray or stripe color?

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I just posted this in the other thread you recently started, but I prefer it to fully-painted in body color-- no oversprayed areas. To me, it looks incomplete and sloppy. It's up to the individual though. (you must hate when people end the post that way) :D Still leaves you hangin' with no direction? Heh... it's true though. Your car...your way.:yes:

You could always do a search for pics on bing, google or on here for more advice and looks.
 
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A search of CRG produces info on these inquiries, if one takes the time to navigate it. http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=5460.0
Thanks Scott. That answers my question. So if I was to paint my inner cowl black, stripe color and I wanted clean lines, where would I tape off. By the sounds of the original cars with stripes it would mean that the upper cowl and inside the cowl would get painted stripe color and from the door jams back it would be body color. That may answer the question I asked to 356 GEAR regading how he was taping his cowl for paint.
 
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I just posted this in the other thread you recently started, but I prefer it to fully painted in body color -- no over-sprayed areas. To me, it looks incomplete and sloppy. Its up to the individual though. (you must hate when people end the post that way) :D Still leaves you hangin' with no direction? Heh... it's true though. Your car...your way.:yes:

You could always do a search for pics on bing, google or on here for more advice and looks.
Hey Todd after reading all of the info I could find on the subject it seems kind of objective as there were exceptions to the rule and inconsistencies from plant to plant. I can attest that my LOS 68 Camaro was way cleaner in terms of fit and finish compared to my 69 Norwood car. The Norwood car has huge gobs of seam sealer all over the place. They must have used at least 3 times as much seam sealer. It is also has drips and blobs all over the place that must have fallen during the process. The 68 looks like it was done much cleaner and possibly with more attention to detail.

However given all of this data if you were me or doing my car, and since we both have similar tastes and ideas on details and finishings, how would you paint the cowl screen and inner cowl well? Stripe color or body color?
 
Body color.

You can even mask off the grille holes in the cowl panel from underneath to block any over spray from when you have the stripes painted on. That way you will have a nice clean look.
 
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Body color.

You can even mask off the grille holes in the cowl panel from underneath to block any over spray from when you have the stripes painted on. That way you will have a nice clean look.
That is what I was thinking. Clean is the way to go. We have had 41 years to figure out all of the improvements that could be made to these cars. Unless you are competing in serious car shows with your trailer queen that never see's street duty, why not make improvements to the car that were neglected back in the day for all of the various obvious reasons mentioned. As subtle and simple as some of these mods or changes are, they can make a difference at the end of the day on the entire project, given all of the improvements that have occurred since 1969.
 
Body color.

You can even mask off the grille holes in the cowl panel from underneath to block any over spray from when you have the stripes painted on. That way you will have a nice clean look.
I always paint my cowl panels off the car. No tape lines and no side dry spots on the panel or fenders either. If the car is painted in pieces instead of jambed and assembled this is self explanatory. Just curious why one would think a light color cowl contrasting with the black rally stripes looks better. Or vice versa. There's no reason you can't spray the inside of the cowl to avoid dryness. Anyone who knows how to pull the trigger can do it.
 
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Body color.

You can even mask off the grille holes in the cowl panel from underneath to block any over spray from when you have the stripes painted on. That way you will have a nice clean look.
So you paint the stripes on the car, not off the car?
 
So you paint the stripes on the car, not off the car?
You could do it either way. I will probably set the stripes up on the car, remove the panels to be striped, stripe them, then re-assemble, then shoot a few final coats of clear to seal it all in. I want my stripes to be burried under the clear for protection and that cleaner look. I don't like the "raised" look of a stripe. I want them as flat as possible and under clear. Just my preference.
 
So you paint the stripes on the car, not off the car?
I would imagine your painter knows the pros and cons of doing it either way. He's been shooting cars for years right? If the stripes are shot off the car just keep pulling the trigger and clear the panels as well, it has it's benefits. I also assume if he's doing buried stripes he knows what can happen to the first flow coat.
 
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I would imagine your painter knows the pros and cons of doing it either way. He's been shooting cars for years right? If the stripes are shot off the car just keep pulling the trigger and clear the panels as well, it has it's benefits. I also assume if he's doing buried stripes he knows what can happen to the first flow coat.
Hey Scott. I have not dealt with the painter at all yet. He is in the paint shop a few doors down. So far I have just been dealing with stripping and priming. One of the Jr painters shot all of the primer and trim black. I will have to talk to the painter this week and see what he has to say. I know he is a high end guy. Don the owner I deal with is very old school and does things his own way. A lot of time when I mention things I learn on here he does not agree with. I generally bounce the things I learn in here of my buddy, Don's son and we try to come to a comprimise and figure out a way to make it work. Since I know virtually nothing about paint, I need to ask a lot of questions. We will be painting the car with the new water born system. I also know that there is a 12 hour window in which to apply paint without have to sand between coats, but it sounds to me so far based on what I have read here that most guys like to have the paint set longer and sand between another color and or clear. I am sure that I am driving Dion nuts, because I keep telling him about these things I learned on this site. He has 50 plus years of experience and has built award winning cars. I'm just the punk with a bunch of crazy ideas, working in his shop for free and getting a pretty decent restoration for a fraction of the cost. Not every body shops dream I am sure.
 
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