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Ok first time installing a quarter panel.. I'm having a problem getting it on the car..I can get the front door jam on but can not get the sail panel part to go on the inside of drip rail..is their a trick to this I'm missing .once the door jam is where it needs to be the sail panel area is already sitting on top of the drip rail. the roof is still on the car if I try to pull back I can't because the door jam area is where it needs to go ..any help would be greatly appreciated..thanks
 
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Pics would help.
 
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Can you post a pic of where you are getting hung up with the quarter? Patrick @tp_smith probably has 30 pics on how to install a quarter. It takes some prying etc to get it into place. I recommend you have everthing prepped to weld it on once you get it on. Taking it on and off multiple times will just add to the aggravation.
 
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I'm not an expert but I did replace the quarters on my 67 by myself. The edge of the sail panel portion of the quarter panel had to be trimmed. The panel has a bead formed in to it that needs to align with the corresponding bead on the roof. Once I realized that and trimmed the edge, setting the quarter on and off was not to difficult. Also I bent the drip rail out slightly and then tapped it back into position after final welding of the quarter panel.
Here's a pic showing what I mean by "bead".
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sandys007 said:
Ok first time installing a quarter panel.. I'm having a problem getting it on the car..I can get the front door jam on but can not get the sail panel part to go on the inside of drip rail..is their a trick to this I'm missing .once the door jam is where it needs to be the sail panel area is already sitting on top of the drip rail. the roof is still on the car if I try to pull back I can't because the door jam area is where it needs to go ..any help would be greatly appreciated..thanks
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You need to put the outer fender well on first. This helps the alignment process and helps in the fitment. DO NOT ATTEMPT to put the panel on without doing this first.. Don't get in a hurry......
Plus you need to slide the quarter on from the back side over the trunk area first then gently pursuade it forward where the last piece goes over the door jamb. BUT, before you do that, make sure the lower portion on the quarter is trimmed where it meets the rocker panel (this area always has too much metal ) you will have to measure how much metal sets on the rocker panel and what will need to be notched. This is a bad pic, but if you look where the qtr meets the rocker you can see the small scrap of metal standing above the rocker, this is the area that you have to make fit by trimming. Also need to have the area really clean and free of any burrs of any kind, so the quarter can smoothly flow over the other panels. to properly fit the quarter, you will need to test fit the quarter and LEAST 5 tor 6 times. So don't get discouraged, the proof is in the test fitting .
Also you will need to if you haven't already is to punch the spot weld holes along the area that will need to be spot welded. If you don't know where the holes need to go please ask I/We will point you in the right direction.
It also helps if you have the rear tail light panel off too. But it's not that much more to do it with the panel installed. I might add, I replaced both quarters, tail panel and the roof skin by myself, you don't really need two people to do this, once you figure out where the center of balance is on the quarter its not that bad.
I might add, don't try to really force things, have a wide putty knife handy close by to help persuade portions of the panel over the main shell (The driver side side rear window lip). Take your time and DON'T get frustrated, if you find your self getting pi$$ed cause something isn't fitting, walk away from it for a bit. I have replaced a driver side quarter on a 70 Nova, Driver and passenger side quarters on a 70 Camaro and a complete rebuild (Both quarters, roof, inner structure drip rails, rear window trunk section
, trunk and complete floor along with a upper mid and lower cowl panel on my daughters 67 Camaro), by myself, So if I can do it, so can you, it just takes patience and taking your time
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I think Mr. HenryH59 is saying don't weld the quarter panel in place with the wheelhouse not installed.

I would test fit the quarter panel with the wheelhouse off the car. Get the quarter panel to fit the door jamb, sail panel and tail panel. Then throw another variable (wheelhouse) in the equation. The trunk drop off can also cause the quarter panel not to fit properly along the bottom. You need to try to minimize the number of panels that are causing interference and then work your way up.

The wheelhouse opening is not a perfect circle. If you weld the wheelhouse in place and it is rotated just a little out of kilter, then the quarter panel will not fit.




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The quarter panel needs to line up with the rocker.

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People have reported that the gap is too wide where the quarter glass is located. Check to make sure yours is ok before final welding.

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I used straps to hold the quarter panel in place during adjustment.



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Mr. Matt had to do some trimming of his sail panel. Seems to be a common problem.
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Discussion starter · #11 ·
And what about the top of the sail panel that extra flap does that stay on or get cut off I know the one part gets weld when the roof skin get bent back down over it.that extra piece above that looks like a pain tying to get under roof skin
 
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I've installed dozens of these in this business. Nothing on the replacement quarter gets cut off like you mentioned. The sail gets spot welded inside and the seam fully welded on the outside. If someone left the sail remnant under the roofskin you need to get it out. I did my first quarter in the 80s. Very simple...clean/straighten all mating areas, check for interference and fit it to adjacent panels and trim if required. It's not as difficult you might think. After this, all the ones you do next will be easier and faster. Modifications for fit are common with repro panels and sometimes NOS.
 
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I did trim some metal off the sail panel right next to the bead.it seam like it almost went on then but I stop at that point was 93 degrees in my garage so I had enough for today try again tomorrow thanks for the info
 
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sandys007 said:
I did trim some metal off the sail panel right next to the bead.it seam like it almost went on then but I stop at that point was 93 degrees in my garage so I had enough for today try again tomorrow thanks for the info
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A note to you Sandy. As I stated, the outer wheel house or Outer wheel well MUST BE PUT IN PLACE, this means you need to get the wheel house in correctly and all welded in
place. If the wheel well is not in place the quarter panel doesn't have the correct flare on the lower potion of the car which offsets the fitment for the upper portion and the rear of the quarter.
I have done this enough times that if you don't you're gonna be throwing tools and other things around the shop and cussing the people that you shouldn't have listened to. But then again, it's your project, I don't feel a thing if you have to cut stuff back off the car and buy another quarter panel or wheel house. BUT, there are spots on the wheel well that you CANNOT reach to weld once you have the quarter panel installed, BUT, then again, you do what you want to do. There isn't an easy way to putting on the quarter panel, you need to test fit, adjust, test fit, trim, test fit, it's the only way. But the wheel well MUST be completely installed.
Also the upper portion of the quarter panel that fit with the roof needs to be slid in-between the roof skin and the inner structure. Just in case you are interested. Make sure you have spot weld holes in the roof skin before doing the final fitting.
If all else fails, just PM me and I can give you my phone number and I can talk you through a lot of the installation.
 
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I just went thru this right now but NOS panels.
Make sure to go inside the car and see if the tab off the first quarter was removed. You might have to drill the spot welds from the inside and take that tab piece out.
When installing the new one have the wheel fastened in place and welded. This will all take several on and off trial fittings.
When sliding the top into the roof area you might have to look inside and make sure the new panel is sliding past the structure and not getting hung up on it. I had a person push with at straight screwdriver on the inside to guide the tab past the inner structure.
Weld thru primer on all weld surfaces before last fit with all spot weld holes pierced at that time.
Slower is the way to gain on this. Don't hurry as you might get frustrated trying to get the perfect fit.
Maysing on YouTube has a 2-hour video on this and is very good to go over a couple times. He has done more of these than anybody has, I think.
In the 80s I did only NOS panels and I still like the quality of the stamping body lines compared to all the aftermarket stuff.
I just removed all the AMD panels that were welded on my car and purchased all NOS and it is worth every penny. Even though I have done this twice.
 
Discussion starter · #20 ·
Lol..no I'll try take some pic's tonight seams like I got it on maybe use some strape to pull it over so gap is not to big for my trunk door gap doesn't look to bad I'll put some pic's on here tonight
 
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