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#22 ·
So I have to ask at this point Bryan, do you like the car enough that if the dealer did a partial refund say 20 k or so would you be happy to have her then? Assuming the restoration is good and body sound etc. Just never know what to think in these situations. Maybe I get too attached to objects. Just me I guess.
 
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With all the information out there today I find it amazing that people buy cars like this one then ask later. I've been with Jerry M. a number of times looking at cars much like this deal and they are mostly horror stories .
 
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To your point Green, I agree 100%. The place I bought it from has a great reputation and the owner is pretty well known. I'm refraining from sharing this information until I give them a chance to respond. I'm still not implying they intentionally mislead me. I only hope they do the right thing.
 
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I would not believe anything a dealer selling old cars told me. I don't care who it is. These guys are out to make money and thats it.
 
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That's too bad I guess. I still haven't heard back from the seller. They sell a TON of cars and motorcycles on EBAY. I'm hoping to hear from them tomorrow. On another note. I am convinced it IS a genuine Z11. The car is in excellent condition. No rust, runs and drives great. New top etc. So what I'm asking is what is a car like this worth? Assuming engine and trans are "period correct". I have a ton of receipts from '98 when I was told it had a frame off restoration. The receipts would support that. The person I bought the car from purchased it in 2006. I'm thinking the person that sold it to him wasn't completely honest about the motor etc. Any thoughts on the value?
 

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papyrus said:
That's too bad I guess. I still haven't heard back from the seller. They sell a TON of cars and motorcycles on EBAY. I'm hoping to hear from them tomorrow. On another note. I am convinced it IS a genuine Z11. The car is in excellent condition. No rust, runs and drives great. New top etc. So what I'm asking is what is a car like this worth? Assuming engine and trans are "period correct". I have a ton of receipts from '98 when I was told it had a frame off restoration. The receipts would support that. The person I bought the car from purchased it in 2006. I'm thinking the person that sold it to him wasn't completely honest about the motor etc. Any thoughts on the value?
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Value and what you can sell it for are 2 very different things.

Sort of depends on what a guy tells and what a guy omits when he decides to sell.

I see a nice car like this and I'm thinking 40+. Certainly much more then 30 But then again I care very little about the whole matching #s business unless it's a very very special car.

The #s game is very convoluted IMO All Original? Matching #s? Period correct? and Now Born With all seem to be bandied about depending on who's selling and who's buying. Then you can have Date coded Glass that is new with any date you want, Re-stamps, Fake or switched Trim Tags and on and on.

IMHO unless you have a well documented paper trail or a cert from a 3rd party expert it's just another Camaro.

I also think you have an uphill battle thinking you're going to get a dime back from the seller.
 
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Discussion starter · #32 ·
Vegas thanks!!! I feel the same. I enjoy the car and I'm sure I'll keep it. I do hope however that the seller will atleast throw me a bone. I would also like to take a minute to thank everyone that had commented and took the time to explain some of these items to me. If you ever get to dallas first beer is on me!
 
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Youve got the right attitude Bryan Dont get to hung up on the #s unless your just curios about the history of the car. As far as cost goes, if we take care of them they should keep going up in value. Some of us buy at market value and some of us buy a little early. Enjoy.
 
#36 ·
I bet the guy who bought it in 2006 got soaked.
Good solid RS convertible without anything special will sell here for $30k fast and easy.
Add on a true Z11 and even without original engine it just goes up.

I'd rather drive my non-matching-originally-a-307 car any damn day of the week over a pristine numbers matching high "worth" car. You know why? Because I CAN and WILL.
Like it or not these cars might be headed the same way as the post-war cars and shoeboxes and such that used to be "worth" so much....the people with the interest in them that actually drive the "value" are going to die off which is what is happening with those cars. If you're buying it for what it's "worth", you're better off putting your money in an IRA as far as I'm concerned, especially since a lot of people lock their cars up just like they're in the bank anyway.

/rant
 
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Bryan I think I remember a very nice restoration being sold in Texas around that time that had a real nice video on youtube. Same one maybe?
 
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