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1968 Camaro restoration tips?

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#1 ·
I'm getting to the point where I think I'm ready to get a rotisserie and actually start the restoration on the Camaro I've had for 10 years now. The car needs a total restoration, and my sometimes my head starts to spin when I think about all of the work ahead of me. I think I will break it down into different segments to focus on, and I'd assume (especially in my case) is the body work. Are there any good books or online guides of the proper sequence of areas to repair first (for both rust repair and panel replacement)? I have an overall vision I want for the car, but I need to get it braced and down to bare metal. The floors need replaced (have the full length replacement floors for each side), and it'll need a new trunk, and while I'm at it, I'd like to add mini tubs. There's a spot on the roof at the top of the rear window that will need patched, and I can tell there's some rust on the quarters.

Should I strip the car completely, glass included, and then brace the body and prepare to move it over to a rotisserie? Should I have it media blasted before putting it on the rotisserie, I assume? What kind of preparation has to be done to the metal after it has been media blasted?

I tried to upload some recent pictures of it, but I ran out of space...I'm guess I'd have to be a paying member to have more space?

Thanks,

Kelly
 
#2 ·
IMO I would not put it on a rotisserie for floor pan replacement or mini tub install. I would tear it down ( tag and bag everything, take lots of photos) and then consider next step. After every bolt on part is off you will know whether to continue tear down or media blast. You might consider a body Cart or jig for the floor pan and trunk floor replacement. Plans are on this site.

Jeff
 
#3 ·
Thanks for the help. I found the plans and materials list for the body jig. I'll try to make one this spring.



This is a dumb question, but if not for sheet metal replacement, what is the advantage of a rotisserie?
 
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What do you want when the car is done? A 100-point show car or a driver to have fun? Without seeing a picture of it, do you really need to pull the body off it? Floors and the trunk can be done on the car?

I had my buddy's uncle do the body on my '67 back in 1991. He left the car on the frame and just stripped it via sanding and some blasting to where it looked like DeLorean (wish I took a picture of it). From that he welded new rockers on it and painted it with Glasurit Urethane Paint. After paint, I did the rest of the work on the car, which hasn't really ever stopped in adding or replacing a little at a time. Buuuttt, I wasn't looking for a show car, but rather a driver.

Are you wanting a nice looking driver or a show car? Can you get by without a rotisserie?
 
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I don't really want a show car, I'd like to go more towards the pro touring route- I figure since it needs so much bodywork, I might as well build it into something I can drive and enjoy as much as possible. Heck, I'd even like to try and paint it myself.

If I was close to a driver, I would probably go your route, and I definitely agree- it never really ends with project cars. I wish I could upload more pictures of it, I took some just back in November (haven't really touched the car since 2010 but the itch to get started on it has come back with a vengeance). I could Flinstone the car from each floor pan and trunk, unfortunately.
 
#8 ·
I've heard panel replacement can be done if you do one panel at a time. I'm not sure why you braced it to do the rocker because if the floor was in it and it's not a convert IMO nothing is moving.

I've also heard horror stories of panel replacement done with the car off the ground and doors not closing when it's on the ground.

My plan is to do the floors on the body cart and do the rest of the sheet metal with the weight on the wheels. I'm most likely going to put the shell on the rotisserie for paint.

Jeff
 
#7 ·
I don’t know how old you are but rotisseries and two post lifts are an old man’s best friends when building cars imho.

Don
 
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I did mine without a body jig or rotisserie. I did take alot of measurements and made sure they were held when welding everything back together. I also did the one piece floor pan and one piece trunk pan. Going the pro-tour route and mini-tubs, it is a little surreal to put in a brand new trunk pan and then partially cut it back out lol. Everything worked out great, but I could have used a rotisserie when I painted the bottom of the car. Kinda sucked with the jack stands only going up so high, being on your back shooting straight up while shimmying around like a fish out of water while being attacked by the hose attached to the gun.........I survived tho - good luck
 
#14 ·
The difference between a driver and a showcar, in most cases, is the attention to detail. Take your time with each component. If you do it yourself you don't have to concern yourself with labor costs. Go ahead and paint it yourself and save a bunch of money and it really is not difficult. Takes time and proper preparation. Turn your garage into a paint booth. YouTube has plenty of great info. Plan on a couple of years and fun doing it.
 
#20 ·
Thank you. I will definitely make mistakes along the way, but I'm hoping enough preparation will prevent any catastrophic errors. Definitely going to take years to do, but I can't afford to pay a shop right now, so I might as well do as much as I can myself.
 
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At the start of your restoration, a jig would be more beneficial compared to a rotisserie. You can replace the parts you mentioned without a jig, but the work will be a lot easier and more accurate if you use one.

A rotisserie will not give you any alignment points like a jig provides. You need the alignment points because the reproduction parts are not perfect. They will have to be bent and tweaked to make them fit.

You mentioned the floor and trunk pan needs to be replaced because of rust. The bottom of the firewall might be rusty. The wheelhouses might have holes in them. The rockers could also have problems.

You want to minitub your car. The frame rails will have to be cut. If they are rusty, might as well replace them. The inner wheelhouses will have to be removed and wider ones need to be fitted.

I aligned my doors on the jig. My doors still fit correctly after placing the body on four rubber tires. My jig mounting points were the four subframe mounting points on the body and the four points where the leaf springs mount. The car did not bend after removing it from the jig. My car has a cloth roof.

I was able to elevate my jig using 6 jack stands. I was able to sit upright under the car with a welding helmet.
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[/url]JIG 76 by Patrick Smith, on Flickr[/IMG]

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[/url]JIG 75 by Patrick Smith, on Flickr[/IMG]
 
#22 ·
Greatly appreciate the advice and pictures. Looks like you have a pretty nice setup, I may try to build a jig similar to that one.

I assume if I did brace the body, I'd tack the braces in before removing the glass, doors, and pulling the subframe out?
 
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Yeah, I figured that may be the case. I bought the half floor pieces many years ago because a guy ended up going a different route and sold me the pair for $75. I could always sell them and buy an entire new full floor plan if I decide to go that route.
 
#29 ·
I may try to sell what i have, or possibly use them for practice, and get a full floor if it's easier. I would think it would be more difficult- it seems like it would be harder to physically get into place and harder to massage if needed.
 
#28 ·
As many other have said on here nothing wrong with doing things yourself. Just take your time since you aren't paying for labor. I did the quarters and outer wheel houses on my 68 on the ground. I wish I would have taken the opportunity to mini tub it while I was in there but maybe in a few years. Then stripped, primed, sanded, and painted mine in my garage. While it isn't perfect I don't worry about driving it whenever I want to and I have received a few compliments on the paint.