Nope Nope and Nope
They show up from time to time but many are add on cars too. No registry but www.camaros.org has some info. on the JL8 option in its data base. Gear ratio was not related to JL8 either. You could have the JL8 with a 6 cylinder coupe too.

 

To date only one non Z/28 has been located thought to have been built with JL-8 There is no paperwork but the car is complete and all there. It is not an SS either.

The Z11s used to pace the race had JL-8 but it was retrofitted at the Tech Center for some reason. The cars were not ordered with it.

The best source for JL-8 tech info is Wayne Guinns' excellent book: Camaro Untold Secrets. The JL-8 section is 34 pages!

www.guinns-engineering.com

 

William, was the non-Z car the blue 6 cyl ?

 

No I believe it is a Frost green 4-speed; 307 or 350-2bbl. It is under restoration.

 

The car in question belongs to travlinz28 who lives about six miles from me in Southern CA. IIRC it is a Frost Green sport coupe with Medium Green STD interior, it is a 307 car, also equipped with AC...it is definitely undergoing restoration as we "speak"

 

Was the car's pics posted here? I swear I saw a rusty plain-jane coupe with the orig front and rear jl-8 on camaros.net. I searched and cannot find the pics.

 

I also remember an original 6 cylinder JL8 car discussed here that included pictures. I believe the car was found in southern CA. Not sure what color it was.

Doug

 

x44 I also remember seeing that car.

 

I found it by typing "unusual jl8 car found" I think it's the car William is talking about, a Frost Green car. I think I'll update it to make it easier to find.

 

Thanks for the link, it was a 8 cyl car according to the cowl tag, appears to have been found in southern CA.........Be cool to get an update on the car.
Doug

 

I have heard of one other non-hi-po 69 that had JL8 that was parted out years ago.

I've seen a few JL8 SS's, but none that stood up to scrutiny.

The database acts as a defacto registry for JL8, Z10, COPO, L6, etc.

 

Met a guy recently that mentioned of a 69 307 JL8 car in PA.,his Brother owns it.Will be in touch with him and get details. So far what he told me about already tuned out true,saw it. Yes Wayne Guinn is the Man to Go to for JL8 and Crossram info.Waynes for informative and has a true passion for the hobby!! Great guy,he helped in the research of the Traco 0-Dash casting ZL1 427 motor I had.Ricks 1st Gen has it now.

 

There is one SS JL-8 car here in Sweden, it was found in Belgium around 1980. It has been parted out and will never see the roads. It had the JL-8 frontbrakes. Car had been in Belgium since new and what I have heard bought to be raced.


Jan

 

Dan,
I'd be interested in any data from the 307 car.

Alot of JL8 cars were ordered in error.
'You want disc brakes, right?' 'Yes.....'
Then there was sticker shock when the car showed up....

 

I have the 307 factory a/c JL8 car. I found it almost two years ago and started the resoration about six months ago. The metal work on the shell is complete and awaiting some seam sealer prior to primer. The loose pieces (doors, deck lid, fenders, etc.) are all painted. And, before you ask, yes I did paint it Frost Green because that's the way it came. I have talked to Wayne Guinn and sent him some pictures and he is very excited about the car. He will add it to his website when it is completed.

Dan, I too would also love to hear about another 307 car that may exist. Please share any information the owner is willing to let go of.

 

I forgot to add one more update on the car. Last summer Jerry MacNeish certified the car. I had it on the lift when he arrived and as soon as he walked under and looked at the rear end his comment was "this car has never been apart".

 

i assume you took the flares off the car but if you have any more pictures of the body of the car you can send them too me at Felix524@aol . i was never big into numbers matching cars but i love the way those flares look and i would love to see any more pics you got.
Thanks, Brian

 

By the way a good friend of mine in NJ owns a 69 05C X22 D80 4spd JL8 car. Saw it,drove it,got pictures of it and Yes Wayne Guinn knows about it!

 

That's one of the reputed ones. Fake tag on the car, supposedly a L89, but the prior owner in WI wasn't interested in getting the orig block back (he said he knew where it was)....

 

Kurt,Did you personally inspect this car? Wayne Guinn has info,you should contact him to discuss this car.Wayne has No issues with car. Body number and date code line up with vin number. Before you so outspoken about this car,post details and pictures of what You think is wrong. Yes I heard its a L89 car,but the original motor is long gone. This guy owned the car since 1974,never left Wisconsin till now.If you saw this car up close,you might watch what you say in a open forum about this car. My friend who bought this is very passionate about 69 Camaros because of me from the 1970's owning many back then.He remembers all my BB Camaros,including the "Blue Mule " 1969 Copo X-11 Malchom Konners car which is now owned by Alan Forman of Nevada. Dave who owns this car lived on Washington Valley in Martinsville NJ.I call his house 4th gear,cause thats what I was in flying by his house! Dave remembers well those times,ran to the front of the house many times to try to catch a glimpse. Anyway I'm running a NICB report on it too.Someones doing me a favor. By the way Daves a Quadraplegic,no use of his arms or legs,fell off a cliff my years ago!! Thats WHY I drove it,Nicole his girlfriend and me lifted him into his car that Sunny Saturday,Dave smiled ear to ear !!!! Please if you have a problem and don't want to contact Wayne Quinn Email me and I will forward your emails to Wayne. Wayne HAS NO issues with car!! Kurt,,By the way Wayne was one of the founding fathers of the CRG Camaro site too. Take care,Dan Palchanes

 

Before you so outspoken about this car,post details and pictures of what You think is wrong.

Here's the tag. Sure looks like the outline of the old tag on the bottom right.

 

Dan,
Sorry to offend. You know me enough to know I don't post things just to malign a car or a person. Just the facts. I've known about the car for years. Tag is a repro.

...owns a 69 05C X22 D80 ....

That pretty much tells the story.

I know Wayne, I helped him with his old site years ago. I'll email both of you.

 

Kurt,Email with details why you think the tag is a repo.Point out the details in the pictures. Question,Wayne saw the detail pictures and had No problem giveing the go a head on being a True JL8 396 car.In fact Wayne was in the process of giving the docs to the prior owner.Now Wayne is giving the docs to Dave. The car did have a repaint,but other then after market front and rear sway bars,looks untouched underneath. Dan

 

Kurt,By the way Wayne will be seeing this car in person too.Hes lives about 10 minutes away from where this car is in storage right now. Dan

 

Dan, I talked to the previous owner quite a bit about the car and the tag is definitely not original. There is a lot of stuff that has been changed on the car over the years so who will really know if it's an original JL8 SS396 or not. I have some of the pictures of the car and it's not conclusive. I was interested in the car a couple of years ago but never got enough evidence of it being a JL8 L89 car. It appears to be original JL8 components on the car but it's tough to tell if they were added or there originally.

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Kurt,Go to www.americanautomobilia.com and check out the 1969 06A X-66 D80 L89 JL8 car,vin is 656385 BDY 346888. Real? My friends is 05C X-22 D80 JL8 vin is 6466XX BDY 3325XX and told it was a L89 car,but NO proof to that.Does have a factory 8000 grand tach with a 6 Grand redline.Console with gauges,TR 711,PNT 71B,Center clock too.Has power steering too. Dan

 

Kurt,Go to www.americanautomobilia.com and check out the 1969 06A X-66 D80 L89 JL8 car,vin is 656385 BDY 346888. Real? ...

bunch of hot rods there, couldn't find anything

one of the 2nd gen Camaros has been on ebay several times already (fake Z)

not sure what is with that dealer ...

 

Kurt,Thanks wanted your opinion on the car being a real JL8 396 L89.Didn't think it was either because Wayne only mentioned one other 396 JL8 car and it wasn't that car. Take care!

 

Kurt,So the paint thingy and being that theres No documented 05C X22-D80 cars,just Documented 05D D80 cars is why its a repo? Again Wayne Guinn Will see this in person and I will point all this out to him.Thanks for your input! Take care,Dan

 

I used to own the car in question. The "shadow from the old cowl tag" is a shadow from a recent paint touch up. The car is real, as is the cowl tag. Wayne has seen the pictures and looked at many of the casting numbers. I NEVER said that I knew where the engine was! I sure wish that I had that back. I like the car the way it is now and wish that others could understand that. That being said, the car will speak for itself.

 

I NEVER said that I knew where the engine was!

You may have been mistaken about it, but a few years ago you had said that:

> I know where the original engine is yet although I have sold it. It is still sitting on the shelf in the garage of a friend.

I'll let others comment on the tag.