Post the Vin. Make someones day. Could be worth more than you think.

 

in the mid 70's this engine came out of 70 Z/28 in London Ontario CANADA

I'll post the numbers after the next run out to the shop . . .

 

my mistake, it is "CTB" - or VO618CTB to be exact
( flint engine plant / june 18th / z/28 manual trans )

I'll check the rest of the block for the vin portion

 

CTB = 1970 350 CID, 320 HP, M/T, taken from 1974 Motors Manual.

 

Your book is wrong / has a misprint, this is a 1970 LT1 360 HP engine out of a 70 Z/28.

Here's a link to nasty's second genration site :

http://www.nastyz28.com/camaro/z28lt1.html

 

The 70Z LT1 had the 64cc Turbo FLow 2.02/1.6 Heads (With Alternator Boss) and domed Pistons to yield 11:1 Static Compression with a Solid FT Cam producing 360Hp. As you say the engine does not have the correct, pistons or cam. Value would depend on whether you have the correct Heads, Carb/Intake, Distributor, Valve Covers and Air Breather.

A complete 70Z engine is a very rare find today considering there were only 8733 made and less then 1/2 of these had the CTB manual transmission code. Then again if the original car with matching VIN exists, the owner may pay more.

You will find that "Worth" is difficult to peg for 70 Camaro Items, particularly Z as they are indeed getting very Rare. That is they are not plentiful and popular like the previous 302 Z Engines but Rare and the most powerful LT1 GM ever put into a car. I've been looking for and LT1 for my 70Z without much success but satisfied with present 460ci 600Hp SR MK IV ;o)

Muskoka - Bala, Orillia, Washago, Canon Country - LOL?

This appears to be a LA Smogger 70Z Engine.

 

Is this a 3970010 casting number block?

Does anyone know if they used the 3970014 block in the Z28 or the SS in 1970?

 

original stamped 70 LT1 3970010 block, orignal : crank & rods, oil pan, timing cover, ballancer, 2.02 DB heads, intake, distributor, rocker covers, windage tray, air cleaner, alternator ( I think ), non original : water pump, fuel pump, holley 4bbl.

Engine was purchased in about '75 dropped into a 70 RS for a few years, then rebuilt in the mid 80's and dropped into a '68.

Yep - cannon country - BB to be exact.

Where should the vin stamp be on this block - near the oil filter ?

 

When I think about it the VIN, should be stamped just prior to the Engine Code on the Block and isn't there. Humm, I don't believe the VIN was stamped on the block in 70. For it to be the correct block for the car the Engine Assembly Date should be within approx 2 months prior to the cars Assembly Date. This leaves Window of opportunity.

I not sure if I'm correct, perhaps others will chime in.

I raced at Guthrey and worked as Station Agent in Washago back in the early 70's. Loved the Brace Bridge area and ran them County Back Roads riding a KZ 175 along the Canal: to be young again ;o)

 

I'll go inspect some more.

The block is very clean, but I haven't yet found any VIN stamps - anywhere.

One head may have been replaced, as it has a '71 cast date.

If so, this was done prior to '75 when this engine became part of the family.

 

Check the bellhousing flange down by the oil filter. By June I think it should have been on the front pad though.

 

The VIN will be stamped in the rough casting down by the oil filter. Sometimes it is very hard to see. I had a 70 CTB that was mid May and it was almost impossible to see the VIN, but it was there.

The pic of the stamping looks legit.

The 3900014 was used in very late 69 and early 1970 production.

 

I'm going to need a better set of beer goggles, but it looks like N568422.

Extremely hard to see, but if I can get some magnification on it, I will report here what I find / can see.

 

Clean the area again. Use brake cleaner. Then go over the area with a yellow or white crayon. The numbers might show up better.

 

Well it's not mine as my VIN reads N5158XX.

 

this should be shifted over to nastyz2 web site. you might have a better chance of linking this motor with its car and maybe some more accurate info. the motor suffix(the ctc alpha numeric code) was stamped at the motor plant . obviously the motor plant makes motors not finished cars. the vin was stamped on the motor in the assembly plant potently days or weeks later. not sure about 70 cars but by 73 the vin was on the pad next to the flint stamp in front of the head. here is a sheet from 73 with the lication in sure someone over there should have a 70 asembly manual to find out where it was put in 70

 

Here is a lot of 1970 Camaro data.
http://www.nastyz28.com/camaro/camaro70.php#engine

Here is the link to the forum section.
http://www.nastyz28.com/forum/

I checked the 1970 registry on the nasty z 28 site, and that VIN is not listed yet.

 

More accurate info?? My info is based on facts.

He found the VIN down by the filter and he already knows the stamping on the pad.

At least I didnt reference a 73 Assembly manual sheet! Things were done differently by then!

 

More accurate info?? My info is based on facts.
He found the VIN down by the filter and he already knows the stamping on the pad.
At least I didnt reference a 73 Assembly manual sheet! Things were done differently by then!

Relax.

I never said the links I posted to were more accurate. Just more information.

And he said something about "beer goggles" when he found the VIN, so that might not be the correct exact number.

I can't say for sure where 1970 Camaro VINs were stamped, but I know some Chevelles got it on the front pad. And most of those had the partial VIN stamped upside down at the Kansas City plant.

Mike can you post a link that explains VIN location for 1970 - please? I know I am more than willing to learn something new.

 

vin stamping is definately near the oil filter
very hard to read the light vin stamping - even with magnification.
looks like 0N_68422
not really sure if there's a "0" infront of the N or not
Where I have indicated a "_" it is either 0, 6, or 5
I can only make out the bottom of the curved digit
anyway, what's this 70 LT1 worth -any guestimates ?

 

vin stamping is definately near the oil filter
very hard to read the light vin stamping - even with magnification.
looks like 0N_68422
not really sure if there's a "0" infront of the N or not
Where I have indicated a "_" it is either 0, 6, or 5
I can only make out the bottom of the curved digit
anyway, what's this 70 LT1 worth -any guestimates ?

Can you get a pic of the VIN stamping? Set you camera to macro setting, it should be a flower emblem and see if you can get a closeup.

I got $1800 for a bare V0518CTB block and a set of matching heads, there were no internals or intake. Maybe $3000 and up for what you have??

 

anyway, what's this 70 LT1 worth -any guestimates ?

Well there's lies the rub. I bet worth more then any other Z28 Engine from any year in comparable condition and worth more to the person with the Matching Body if it exists. It's the most powerful LT1 ever built and rare as it's 1 of approx 4000 with the CTB Code and for this reason there are few if any occasions to document the Value - which supports the argument as to why the 70Z is considered by many enthusiasts to be one of the most valued Camaro rides, and presents that mystical legacy unmatched by 1st GEN Z28's and in this argument no one can commit themselves as to what the value of the engine may be.

You have to consider that motor is not worth any more unless it resides in the number matching car, but then again is it worth more to someone who wants authentic appearance and wants to run a historic engine. Then again providing the engine assembly date is a respectable period prior to the cars assembly date someone may figure they can get away with a re-stamping and come up with the cash;(considering the location of the VIN it should be relatively simple) other words, why do complete 1st Z28 engines sell for so much.

Personally; if that engine were mine, I would be in touch - tout suite - but since it is not, I'm content to run a 600Hp MK IV. Would my LS4 be worth any more to a person who owns a 73 Laguna El Camino and the VIN doesn't match, perhaps or perhaps not if he has a 426 HEMI in it - LOL

I suggest you put it up for auction with an undisclosed reserve to protect what you think it's value is.

PS: If you do. Let us know, because I would not mind having a clue as to it's Value ;o)

 

IMO its worth $3500 it would need restored with correct pistons, cam ect fresh ready to install all corect for the Z then would be worth $7500

 

lol ^^^

agreed by the weird posting of the 73 info, apples and oranges ...

it clearly IS a 70 engine and we already know where the VIN stamp is and was found

 

I purchased my vo626ctb lt1 z28 engine for $3500 in 2006. It came as a complete engine with a 1969 302 intake, the original water pump dated f-21-0, original heads dated f-21-0 and f-22-0 the oil pan timing cover, valve covers and all the original internal parts. only thing missing was the front balancer. Hope this answers your question on the value. It did get complete $1600 rebuild before installing in my 70 z28 {adding no carb, no distributor, no air cleaner, no deep groove pulleys, no 1100837 37 amp alternator}

 

It did get complete $1600 rebuild before installing in my 70 z28

Did you hone or bore the cylinders ?

If you bored, what pistons did you use, and what final CR did you end up with ?

 

I bored 30 over on block bore and used sealed power 11.1 domed pistons. complete rebuild valve job polished crank new bearings reconditioned connecting rod ends keeping the pink dye on the rods. reused original cam and lifters

 

I doubt the camera will pick up anything worth vewing, but I'll try.

The only real way I can read what Ihave so far is to hold a trouble light off to the side, and look at the stampings through a magnifing glass.