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400 SBC COMPRESSION RATIO

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#1 ·
What's the best way to achieve a moderate compression ratio around 10:25:1 on a 400 SBC? Is it better to use flat top pistons and a larger combustion chamber (74cc) in the head, or to use heads with average-sized combustion chambers (64) and dished pistons?


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DTL504
"COMING SOON SBC 406"
84 Z28 Camaro, 2 Seater Convertible, w/283 bored 80 over,flat top pistons, 2.02/1.60 Camel Hump Heads 64cc (3782461), Blueracer Camshaft: Duration 230/230 @.050 Lift 480/480 109 degrees, Edelbrock RPM Maniford, Holley 670 Avenger Carb, Hooker Ceramic Coated 1 5/8 Headers, Pro-Built 700R4 Street/Strip Trans. A.C.T. 3000 T.Q.,
3:73 Limited Slip., Kyb Shocks, Spon LCA and ADJ. Panhard Rod.
 
#27 ·
CNC, remember why Ed got kicked off the board? He started flame wars, I think you may be headed in the same direction!
 
#28 ·
Ok dude, this time why dont YOU prove that your right?
I want some numbers.
BTW, my appologies for not making enough money to quickly build up my engine. But then again that gives me plenty of time to Think things out.
Eric, Ed's not doing Himself a disservice by using Iron Heads, IMO. I think (wait i KNOW) they work well!

Argue all you like, that "comparison" dyno pull doesnt mean a thing! One pair has Worked chambers, PERIOD!
Eric, i really didnt want to make this personal, so i'm going to stop posting on this post.
I'll Agree to disagree.
 
#29 ·
The power figures in that article are pretty lame, but they are just as lame for the iron heads though. Someone missed that part I guess. It just supports what I said earlier, port design is more important.

If anyone can tell me where to buy new complete iron heads for $900 that will give me 56 more HP, I'll go buy them tomorrow.



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#31 ·
Guys,
So, is the conclusion that iron heads will make slightly more power given the same circumstances?
I have a 406 with a set of Turbo GM heads that have been heavily ported and polished with 2.08, 1.66 valves. Would I see a huge increase with say a set of AFR 210's?
Thanks,
Donnie
 
#33 ·
CNC - What's up with the agressive approach? I'm not going to comment on alum vrs iron or rect vrs oval, I have opinions but for now that's not the issue. The issue is the way your forcing your (dare I say Ed's) views down peoples throats. Say what you have to say, post it and let others decide for themselves. This actually goes for everyone here as it takes 2 to tango.

CNC you are a rookie, (that's not a slur or put down, it's how folks get started) your posting history is here for all to see. One of the things you are doing goes against the grain of everything your mentor stands for. That is speaking from personal experience and not second hand information.

Let's move forward and not regress to some places we've been in the past!!
 
#36 ·
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CamaroJSU:
Litte change of pace, with the proper set up is 10.2:1 in a 400 to much compression for Nos. Maybe anything under a 100 shot. Just your thoughts. Thanks <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nope...I plan to have 10.5:1 with my 406, and plan to spray 125 shot......

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383 Speed-O-Motive stroker kit with Holley 750DP, RPM intake,MSD6a box,World Products Sportsman II heads, ported and polished with 2.02/1.60 valves,64cc,TRW forged pistons with 10.7:1 compression, Comp Magnum 294s solid cam,Crane pushrods, Comp Cam 1.6 full roller rockers,MSD Pro Billet,ATI damper, 40 series Flowmasters, 4.11 gears with TH350 and Hughes 3000 stall.
 
#37 ·
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 1968camaro123:
Guys,
So, is the conclusion that iron heads will make slightly more power given the same circumstances?
I have a 406 with a set of Turbo GM heads that have been heavily ported and polished with 2.08, 1.66 valves. Would I see a huge increase with say a set of AFR 210's?
Thanks,
Donnie
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have you cc'd or flowed those heads of your's? like stated above, it does matter what your combo is, but i will tell you a 406 loves a fairly large cam, and good flowing, bigger runner heads, such as those afr 210's. remember, those are big block cubic inches. and as far as 10.5:1 being too much compression for nitrous, no way. i know several guys that have well in excess of 11:1 w/ 406's that run 200-250 horse shots with no problem. just make darn sure your fuel system is up to it. heck, i built my motor for nitrous, not planning on regular use but wanted the option, and its 11.5:1. and i'm not worried at all. hope that helps
 
#38 ·
Lonnie,
It's a 406 small block with the above heads(steam holes drilled), comp solid cam .550 lift. 10.5 to 1 CR, victor jr. intake, holley 800 double pumper, forged internals, shot peened rods. Anything else just ask...I'm also running a 200 shot. It's in an el camino right now that runs 11.70's on the motor and and about 10.6's on the bottle so that'll be about 11.5's in the camaro and 10.4ish on the spray.
Thanks,
Donnie